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leeparkes
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Is it just the crank that needs to be swaped over to an M50 block? is the rest the same, ie pistons rods head etc..
What are M50's like compared to M52's performance wise, is there much in it?
What are M50's like compared to M52's performance wise, is there much in it?
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Now you have driven the M52 all the M50 will do is dissapoint you i feel as you can tell the difference sitting in the passenger seat how much quiker the M52b28 is of the M50b25leeparkes wrote:Is it just the crank that needs to be swaped over to an M50 block? is the rest the same, ie pistons rods head etc..
What are M50's like compared to M52's performance wise, is there much in it?

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DanThe
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Crank, rods and pistons are different, the bores will need fettling also as the stroke is longer, new rings are a must, head gasket/bolts, rod bolts, oil seals and skim on the head while its off, you will also need timing cover gaskets and possibly crank oil seals, its a good opportunity to fit a new chain/guide. Thats about £400 worth of parts, another M52 lump is probably the easiest/most cost effective way to go.
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leeparkes
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Thats the plan but have you seen how much some nutters want for bare enginesDanThe wrote:another M52 lump is probably the easiest/most cost effective way to go.
Im going to look at a donor car tomorrow morning so fingers crossed
Cypriotgeeza wrote:I done both my mates in my old 318is
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leeparkes
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While searching for a donor ive come across this shit heap
One for the bruvs
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/ ... ?logcode=p

One for the bruvs
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/ ... ?logcode=p
Cypriotgeeza wrote:I done both my mates in my old 318is
felt so proud,even tried it with a E30 325i and got put in my place..
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If it hasn't overheated dude the headgasket should be do-able..
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*My 328i got warm briefly when the water pump went.. That was fine
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ull the head off you havnt got nothing to loose really in trying

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leeparkes
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Its too much of a risk and a good chance ill be throwing money down the drain trying to fix it so a new lump is in order.
I will remove the head though to see whats caused it as im curious myself.
I will remove the head though to see whats caused it as im curious myself.
Cypriotgeeza wrote:I done both my mates in my old 318is
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town325i
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Why though all you will waste is the gasket if the threads pull and whats that £20 head skim and pressure test is around £50 and that wont go to waste as a spare for an iron block m50b28

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Have you took the head off this yet?

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leeparkes
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No, I havent touched it yet
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A guy near me has an S50 compact and its a proper weapon 
Cypriotgeeza wrote:I done both my mates in my old 318is
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Do it!!!!
Then it'd be a proper weapon with a cage and stripped out interior

Then it'd be a proper weapon with a cage and stripped out interior
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balls, leave the interior, and the 4.1 diff 
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*Update*
New lump arrived today


Cost me just shy of 500 sheets delivered, Its another steel liner block (98 ) and its supposed to be a very good lump in fine fettle, brought from a well known trader on e36coupe.
It also has one of those Alpina blokes M50 manifolds on it and BBTB
iirc he charges about 300 quid for these (could be more with the TB)


Im hoping to get this in over the weekend
Whoop whoop
New lump arrived today


Cost me just shy of 500 sheets delivered, Its another steel liner block (98 ) and its supposed to be a very good lump in fine fettle, brought from a well known trader on e36coupe.
It also has one of those Alpina blokes M50 manifolds on it and BBTB


Im hoping to get this in over the weekend
Whoop whoop
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Cypriotgeeza wrote:I done both my mates in my old 318is
felt so proud,even tried it with a E30 325i and got put in my place..
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Glutton for punishment! Hope you've better luck with this one... 
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That's a bargain price if it's a reliable engine with all those toys attached, good stuff. You could always use the lawnmower engine, that looks tasty.

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Fare play for sticking with it. They look like some tasty mods too. Should be cracking.

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leeparkes
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Cheers lads!
Lets hope i have no trouble with this one.
Lets hope i have no trouble with this one.
Cypriotgeeza wrote:I done both my mates in my old 318is
felt so proud,even tried it with a E30 325i and got put in my place..
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Fingers crossed for you Lee 

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Cheers!
What ive noticed with these lumps though is how light they are, i managed on my own to wriggle it off the pallet onto my trolley with ease
What ive noticed with these lumps though is how light they are, i managed on my own to wriggle it off the pallet onto my trolley with ease
Cypriotgeeza wrote:I done both my mates in my old 318is
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leeparkes wrote:It also has one of those Alpina blokes M50 manifolds on it and BBTBiirc he charges about 300 quid for these (could be more with the TB)
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Found out earlier he charges £410 for this set up (delivered)
Cypriotgeeza wrote:I done both my mates in my old 318is
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Very late M52 that is!
Nice to see you have the M52 throttle Lee, im under the impression they give better response
I take it you got the ECU/EWS with this engine?
Nice to see you have the M52 throttle Lee, im under the impression they give better response
I take it you got the ECU/EWS with this engine?
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£400 must = 100 bhp at least. You got yourself 310bhp there mate. M3 power
As long as the motor is genuine your laughing at that money.
As long as the motor is genuine your laughing at that money.

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DanThe wrote:Very late M52 that is!
Nice to see you have the M52 throttle Lee, im under the impression they give better response![]()
I take it you got the ECU/EWS with this engine?

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No, the guy wanted an extra £100 for the ECU/EWSDanThe wrote:I take it you got the ECU/EWS with this engine?
The plan is to run it on my set up. Will this be fine? the engine is a late 98
You got me flapping now
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Cypriotgeeza wrote:I done both my mates in my old 318is
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Wont work mate, your new engine has a rear crank sensor....
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leeparkes
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You are f*ckin jokinDanThe wrote:Wont work mate, your new engine has a rear crank sensor....
I did notice a plug where the tab sits, can i make it run with my set up or do i need the later ECU, will it be EWS3? build date is oct98
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You could put your entire engine loom and front pulley on the new engine. What you have is a 99-2000 Coupe/Touring/Convertible engine which is a hybrid of an M52 and an M52TU.
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leeparkes
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Well im now back on track 
After consulting with Dan i had two choices to get the engine running right, i could swap the loom over with the front pulley and all the sensors or get the ECU from the engine im putting in.
Quick text to the bloke i got the engine off and £50 later i had this lot delivered today

Im so glad its EWS2 so its a plug and play affair!

After consulting with Dan i had two choices to get the engine running right, i could swap the loom over with the front pulley and all the sensors or get the ECU from the engine im putting in.
Quick text to the bloke i got the engine off and £50 later i had this lot delivered today

Im so glad its EWS2 so its a plug and play affair!
Cypriotgeeza wrote:I done both my mates in my old 318is
felt so proud,even tried it with a E30 325i and got put in my place..


