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Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:40 pm

Why would you want to convert it to RHD?
Ruins it totally!

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Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:41 pm

it doesnt but there you go
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Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:43 pm

if you fit the e36 quick rack they are virtually the same as a LHD version.

i actually know of this car and it is very clean and well looked after and performs well.
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Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:45 pm

Someone else with those rare Hartage extras....
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Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:46 pm

dont think its ruined, some cant adjust to lhd so get things converted .i know a guy who buys american muscle cars gets them all converted cos he cant adjust to lhd driving zso thus to get the car he wants he converts them !
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Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:47 pm

Kos wrote:
if you fit the e36 quick rack they are virtually the same as a LHD version.

i actually know of this car and it is very clean and well looked after and performs well.
I thought about this the other night. Seems like a reasonable idea.
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Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:47 pm

What are you talking about? There is only two problems converting E30 M3's from LHD to RHD, the exhaust manifold to steering coupling clearance and the fact you cant get a quicker ratio RHD steering rack. Both of these problems can be over come. The conversion was done by birds of Uxbridge which is the UK dealer for Hartge so wasn't exactly lashed up by some cow boy! So tell me, how has it been ruined?!
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Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:51 pm

on the birds conversions the exhaust manifolds were modified and the primary's stayed equal length. problem is they only built about 20

I'd have one. Some will moan about the brake linkage but it's not really a problem if it's adjusted spot on
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Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:51 pm

bss325i wrote:What are you talking about? There is only two problems converting E30 M3's from LHD to RHD, the exhaust manifold to steering coupling clearance and the fact you cant get a quicker ratio RHD steering rack. Both of these problems can be over come. The conversion was done by birds of Uxbridge which is the UK dealer for Hartge so wasn't exactly lashed up by some cow boy! So tell me, how has it been ruined?!
correct, demlot has done this to his car and his car performs very well

and birds are pretty much spot on with their work
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Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:51 pm

I'd actually buy this over a similar spec / mileage left hooker. As above. It's been done by the dealer so I reckon it's actually quite desirable
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Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:53 pm

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Absolutely gorgous in my opinion, as long a it is carried out by proper people an not a bodge job then is most definately worth it. Do a job do it once, do it properly!
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Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:54 pm

there was only one place doing this conversion i think Birds UK
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Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:58 pm

So where is this fool to justify what he said?
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Ok perhaps ruined is a bit strong lol
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Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:02 pm

Simon13 wrote:there was only one place doing this conversion i think Birds UK
There used to be a guy in east sussex nick named george , Steve something ?
He converted 5or 6 m3`s and one was up for sale recenly on pistonheads :wink:
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Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:03 pm

but it will have a 325 rack no doubt and the brakes on a rhd are never as good as a lhd car
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Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:08 pm

dannyboy759 wrote:but it will have a 325 rack no doubt and the brakes on a rhd are never as good as a lhd car
i belive it does, but as i said i know this car and its spot on. a quick rack conversion is hardly going to break the bank. as for the brakes, on the road you will not notice, and on the track only if you are puching realy hard will you notice any difference. and a again a simple upgrade will sort this out
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Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:14 pm

At least he won't have to reverse it round the drive-thru now! :wink:
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Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:35 am

Philwild wrote:At least he won't have to reverse it round the drive-thru now! :wink:
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Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:37 am

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Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:44 am

All Birds cars had the correct RHD wiper linkage fitted which makes me think this car is not an original Birds car. Nothing wrong with a home converted car if its done properly (i am doing a B6 3.5 as we speak :( ) but passing off a homebrew as something it's not is naughty ! :-x

Being LHD only adds to the kudos of the M3 and for a long time kept undesireables from the helm but alas not any more as witnessed by some of the monsters roaming the streets ! :eek:

PS Anyone who can't get to grips with LHD obviously is a bit lacking coordination wise and of dubious sexuality ! :gay:
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Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:44 am

can't see the problem here :( so what if its been converted to rhd its still the same car :? just the same as buying a sport or 4 door from germany, same spec just the steering wheel is on the wrong side :eek:
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Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:51 am

If I was in the market for an M3, it would either have to be pre-converted to RHD or I'd do it myself.
B*l**cks to originality, LHD when you drive on the left is so wrong.
If BMW had made RHD E30 M3's no-one would have a problem with converted cars, would they?
.....And the brake linkage argument doesn't hold water either. Nit-picking, or what????
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Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:53 am

If this is a car owned by a very large Asian gentleman, then it's a very nice car. Saw it at The Yeovil Show in 2006. If it is that car, then it's been very well looked after with no expense spared.

As for the braking crap, the average person just will not notice the difference, certainly not the level that makes the car noticable inferior.

Like has been mentioned before, the percieved issues and actual issues with a good RHD conversion can be negated with modern mods.

W@nking over some nostalgic crap doesn't in any way make a left hand drive car better than a right hand drive car on British roads.
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Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:57 am

:clap: well said rosco :D W@nking over some nostalgic crap doesn't in any way make a left hand drive car better than a right hand drive car on British roads.
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Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:01 pm

Ohhhh someone got out of bed on the wrong side
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Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:15 pm

touringandy wrote:i know a guy who buys american muscle cars gets them all converted cos he cant adjust to lhd!
what a spazz master! but each person is different i guess :?

i dont think the car is ruined just by changing to RHD its not that bad at all
i personally would want it LHD just because i think its a better set up i being LHD!

gear stick in the right hand feels like its how it should be - more natural.

i used to drive for nissan and i had to drive thousands of cars in a day which meant driving left hookers the right hookers the left hookers etc it was great fun!

especialy when they brought the jap imports in :twisted:
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Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:28 pm

ric325i wrote:

gear stick in the right hand feels like its how it should be - more natural.
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Rosc0PColtrane wrote:
ric325i wrote:

gear stick in the right hand feels like its how it should be - more natural.
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hahaha lol :wan:

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Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:45 pm

Kos wrote:if you fit the e36 quick rack they are virtually the same as a LHD version.

i actually know of this car and it is very clean and well looked after and performs well.
An E36 quick rack - tell me more, I sooooo need one!
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Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:16 pm

Car's not ruined... Probably worth more than an LHD to the right buyer, someone who wants an M3 but not LHD.
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