4 to 5 stud conversion

Need technical Q/A then you're in the right place

Moderator: martauto

elliot
E30 Zone Regular
E30 Zone Regular
Posts: 622
Joined: Sun May 01, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: banbury oxon

Post Fri May 13, 2005 10:41 pm

all the nice wheels seem to be 5 studs IMO. is this an easy/expensive conversion?

regards

elliot
User avatar
chu346
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 2403
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Leicester

Post Fri May 13, 2005 10:51 pm

Do know if these would work. It says they can change the bolt pattern.

http://www.hrsprings.com/site/products/trak.html
smithy318i
Engaged to the E30 Zone
Engaged to the E30 Zone
Posts: 5797
Joined: Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Tyne & Wear

Post Fri May 13, 2005 11:55 pm

I have been told you can convert to e30 M3 or e36 5 studs, however it isn't worth the effort and expense to do it.

the spacers above may be a solution. but i didn't see any 4->5 stud.
Image
A1BMW325iSport
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 4239
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Mid Wales

Post Sat May 14, 2005 1:22 am

if they did four to five stud spacers i would def. buy them
can`t see any on the site either tho :(

i have seen the spacers used on e34`s to fit e36 and e46
wheels on, as it sorts out the offset problem of fitting 3series
wheels onto 5 series
Last edited by A1BMW325iSport on Sat May 14, 2005 11:14 am, edited 1 time in total.
nav786
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 2597
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Woking, Surrey

Post Sat May 14, 2005 10:59 am

you can get the spacers to convert from 4>5 stud. there is loads of cars on e30.de with them.
Image

FOR SALE

SONY PSP'S £100
JazzMan
E30 Zone Camper
E30 Zone Camper
Posts: 1070
Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Deep South

Post Sun May 15, 2005 5:24 pm

nav786 wrote:you can get the spacers to convert from 4>5 stud. there is loads of cars on e30.de with them.
Have you got any links to a source of these? I have a look on e30.de but couldnt see anything. :)
A1BMW325iSport
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 4239
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Mid Wales

Post Sun May 15, 2005 6:11 pm

i know a bit of german but i couldn`t find anything on there either
dazleeds
old skool raver
old skool raver
Posts: 12883
Joined: Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Empire Building @

Post Sun May 15, 2005 8:46 pm

would it be that difficult to design some and get an engineer to make em??
lets face theres loads of people would want them
is theyre anyone on the zone with the know how to design them????

got to be worth thinking about Daz leeds
www.oldskoolfantasy.co.uk
in the shit,the one to blame,yeh its all my fault ;)
smithy318i
Engaged to the E30 Zone
Engaged to the E30 Zone
Posts: 5797
Joined: Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Tyne & Wear

Post Sun May 15, 2005 9:15 pm

This company flogs them (made to the size you want)

http://www.dgt-international.com/

but they also flog them on ebay for Ԛ£245.00 :eek:

RIP OFF TVVAT... :x
Image
smithy318i
Engaged to the E30 Zone
Engaged to the E30 Zone
Posts: 5797
Joined: Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Tyne & Wear

Post Sun May 15, 2005 9:21 pm

Image
A1BMW325iSport
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 4239
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Mid Wales

Post Sun May 15, 2005 9:25 pm

if you could get the right offset wheels then that would be ok, those spacers look ok but are a bit thick

i could have had some of these for Ԛ£120 2months ago but didn`t buy
as they were 5 stud...
Image
maybe i should have got them after all :(
smithy318i
Engaged to the E30 Zone
Engaged to the E30 Zone
Posts: 5797
Joined: Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Tyne & Wear

Post Sun May 15, 2005 9:33 pm

they can adjust the thickness to what you want.
I suppose they just slap it on a milling machine.

Spacers are still overpriced IMO !

Smithy :drool: over car above.
Image
dazleeds
old skool raver
old skool raver
Posts: 12883
Joined: Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Empire Building @

Post Sun May 15, 2005 11:44 pm

lm gonna have a good look into this and go ask in a machine shop if they can make some up and see what price etc so ill let you know what i come up with in a few days

Daz leeds
www.oldskoolfantasy.co.uk
in the shit,the one to blame,yeh its all my fault ;)
johnono
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 4677
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: land of the vikings

Post Sun May 15, 2005 11:52 pm

Image

they can be made, i just cant for the life of me remember where the fo i found these
M3Compact
E30 Zone Regular
E30 Zone Regular
Posts: 506
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm

Post Mon May 16, 2005 12:03 am

dazleeds wrote:lm gonna have a good look into this and go ask in a machine shop if they can make some up and see what price etc so ill let you know what i come up with in a few days

Daz leeds
Daz, please let me know if you find somewhere. 8) I'm near Leeds and I need some more of these turning. (No local facilities :( .)

Image

Image
Last edited by M3Compact on Mon May 16, 2005 12:15 am, edited 1 time in total.
JazzMan
E30 Zone Camper
E30 Zone Camper
Posts: 1070
Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Deep South

Post Mon May 16, 2005 12:06 am

dazleeds wrote:lm gonna have a good look into this and go ask in a machine shop if they can make some up and see what price etc so ill let you know what i come up with in a few days

Daz leeds
I would be very interested in a 4 to 5 stud E36/46 conversion please do let us know if you find anything :)
A1BMW325iSport
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 4239
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Mid Wales

Post Mon May 16, 2005 12:15 am

i`m def. very interested if we can get some made up
dazleeds
old skool raver
old skool raver
Posts: 12883
Joined: Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Empire Building @

Post Mon May 16, 2005 12:33 am

jazzman will keep u posted


m3 compact where are you??

do you have the ones in pic?might be easier if had 1 to copy?? Daz
www.oldskoolfantasy.co.uk
in the shit,the one to blame,yeh its all my fault ;)
M3Compact
E30 Zone Regular
E30 Zone Regular
Posts: 506
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm

Post Mon May 16, 2005 7:09 am

m3 compact where are you??
I'm in Ilkley.

We've no turning facilities or skills, and we're always struggling for engineers unless we have 'proper' drawings. :?
smithy318i
Engaged to the E30 Zone
Engaged to the E30 Zone
Posts: 5797
Joined: Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Tyne & Wear

Post Mon May 16, 2005 11:35 pm

Do you guys think Ԛ£108 is a good price ?
Image
Andy325i
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 4052
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Avon

Post Mon May 16, 2005 11:40 pm

smithy318i wrote:I have been told you can convert to e30 M3 or e36 5 studs, however it isn't worth the effort and expense to do it.
why do you say that dude?
Image
M50B25NonVanos & M52B28Vanos Heads for sale. Pm Me.
dazleeds
old skool raver
old skool raver
Posts: 12883
Joined: Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Empire Building @

Post Mon May 16, 2005 11:41 pm

smithy if you can get em for 108quid i think i can safely say count us all in mate Daz leeds
www.oldskoolfantasy.co.uk
in the shit,the one to blame,yeh its all my fault ;)
smithy318i
Engaged to the E30 Zone
Engaged to the E30 Zone
Posts: 5797
Joined: Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Tyne & Wear

Post Mon May 16, 2005 11:47 pm

sorry lads, I can only get one set.

The guy payed $380 and found they didnt fit his 18.5 M wheels.
He wants $200 for them (=about Ԛ£108)
Image
smithy318i
Engaged to the E30 Zone
Engaged to the E30 Zone
Posts: 5797
Joined: Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Tyne & Wear

Post Mon May 16, 2005 11:52 pm

Andy325i wrote:
smithy318i wrote:I have been told you can convert to e30 M3 or e36 5 studs, however it isn't worth the effort and expense to do it.
why do you say that dude?
You need to replace the whole suspension setup (apparently)
Image
Widge
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 3661
Joined: Tue Jan 11, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Leeds

Post Tue May 17, 2005 12:07 am

Daz we'll look in to this when you get back from your holiday cos I think Tates in Otley should be able to knock them up, just a case of how much, the more we order th cheaper they will be.


M3compact, if you're in Ilkley then I may be able to help you with drawings at some point, I did 1st year engineering before switching to marine biology so I can get auto cad off a mate an should be able to knock up some schemo's of what ever that is? Is it a 5 stud front hub with the bearings and every thing? converted from M3 perchance? If so then where is the ABS ring?

Keep us posted Daz
Andy325i
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 4052
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Avon

Post Tue May 17, 2005 7:26 am

smithy318i wrote:
Andy325i wrote:
smithy318i wrote:I have been told you can convert to e30 M3 or e36 5 studs, however it isn't worth the effort and expense to do it.
why do you say that dude?
You need to replace the whole suspension setup (apparently)
Sure do :D

Then you get better brakes too. Bargin :cool:
Image
M50B25NonVanos & M52B28Vanos Heads for sale. Pm Me.
Project_E30
E30 Zone Camper
E30 Zone Camper
Posts: 1107
Joined: Thu Jan 13, 2005 11:00 pm

Post Wed May 18, 2005 9:36 am

Very interested please keep us posted on progress and price.

Cheers
stappin
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 146
Joined: Fri Mar 25, 2005 11:00 pm

Post Wed May 18, 2005 10:12 am

According to the drawings on real OEM if you swap the rear hubs and bearing from a 2.0l Z3 they are the same size bearing as the E30 making the fronts the only mission. When I looked into this for my rally car the only way I could see to do the front was to put E36 font setup on the car.
M3Compact
E30 Zone Regular
E30 Zone Regular
Posts: 506
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm

Post Wed May 18, 2005 10:27 am

Widge wrote:Daz we'll look in to this when you get back from your holiday cos I think Tates in Otley should be able to knock them up, just a case of how much, the more we order th cheaper they will be.


M3compact, if you're in Ilkley then I may be able to help you with drawings at some point, I did 1st year engineering before switching to marine biology so I can get auto cad off a mate an should be able to knock up some schemo's of what ever that is? Is it a 5 stud front hub with the bearings and every thing? converted from M3 perchance? If so then where is the ABS ring?

Keep us posted Daz
Widge, Otley is only 5 minutes down the road from me.

The pic is of a spacer/adaptor that sits behind the disc enabling E39 M5 front discs to be fitted along with the upgraded wheel studs. (Using E36 hubs).

I desperately need a rear disc 'cloning' to use as a bell to mount an AP motorsport disc onto. (Can't modify a standard disc, because they're cast.)
Widge
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 3661
Joined: Tue Jan 11, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Leeds

Post Wed May 18, 2005 10:59 am

M3Compact wrote: Widge, Otley is only 5 minutes down the road from me.
Yeah I know.

Do you know who Tates are? The Oil supply company, fit boilers and stuff?
They are in Otley opposite the out doorsy type shop past the shell garage.
Originally started as Geo Tate Engineers, now make all of their money out of oil and boilers. Still the best engineers in the business though. You'll be horrified when you go in it's a far cry from an F1 pit, theire work shop is a stone barn in the middle of Otley! I went in one day to have something done and they were making an autoclave fro Leeds Uni medical department, an experimental proto type. Any way they were the only people who would do it as it had to be made enitrly of Mloybdnum sheet, and you cant weld it so they were stitching it togeather with molybdnum wire! These guy's are the mutts nutts, if you can't get shit to stick to a blanket they'll weld it on for you :lol:

Any way take your bit in to reception and ask them if they can make you another, if they can't (and they're always fcuking busy) then they will tell you who can. And they never want drawings, pic on the back of a fag packet will do.
User avatar
Borderbmw
E30 Zone Regular
E30 Zone Regular
Posts: 452
Joined: Mon Mar 07, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Scottish borders

Post Wed May 18, 2005 11:01 am

Just a thought fella's.....have you thought of trying a local college with engineering department,there always looking for pieces for students to learn machining on,and it would give the department some extra revenue...just a thought?
elliot
E30 Zone Regular
E30 Zone Regular
Posts: 622
Joined: Sun May 01, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: banbury oxon

Post Thu May 19, 2005 6:12 pm

sounds like a top idea that :D

elliot