Who uses there E30 to go sideways

[Rosc0PColtrane]

Middlesboro,

Just outside of

[Morat]

From what I gather on here, the best way to make a car drift is to make it so light at the back that its totally undriveable then back off by one percent

Small, stretched tyres on the narrowest rear rims you can find.
Welded diff to force the tyres to start slipping on corners
I'm not sure about suspension, drifters seem to drop their cars but I'd have thought a soft rear would help it step out as weight transfers to the outside wheel. Maybe soft springs and a really solid roll bar

Of course this is a bit different to the fast road/trackday approach where you need all the grip you can get, especially at the back.

[dimebag_from_hell]

Get it welded up. Bmw diffs are shite, they cannot take the abuse!

[maxfield]

Get it welded up. Bmw diffs are shite, they cannot take the abuse!

Yes they can.

I'm sure everyone will agree, munky?

[munky30]

I agree... with dimebag.

Even if they can take the abuse, they're shit fore drifting, 25% lock just doesnt cut it.

[hoshy]

welder. lol. for pure out drifting yeap that's probably true.

I thought about running a welded diff on the road for a while but got pretty put off. I'm too irresponsible to start with

The standard 25% lock makes the car a lot more tractable (I don't really know what that means but it feels like the right word so I'll run with it for now). when I switched to an LSD I really enjoyed being able to get the power down quicker, traction out of tight corners. It's just much better overall. This is BMW after all

In my best brianmooore impression - the e30 lsd is good at what it's designed for.

It's certainly gonna drift better than an open diff too.

Right word, properly used lol

Didn't know what you meant to begin with, until I'd looked up tractable and came back to edit the post. lol - finally things fell in to place.

[dimebag_from_hell]

They cant take the abuse! Max buy a 325i for your first car and send her sideways/circle it at a few road ends, it wont be long before your looking for a new diff or welding it up!

[maxfield]

Insure a 325i as a first car you having a giggle!

4pot twin cam rightness all the way for me...

[zaust]

Get it welded up. Bmw diffs are shite, they cannot take the abuse!

Yes they can.

I'm sure everyone will agree, munky?

Not me. Been through so many diff's. lol

[tailoutcharlie]

anyone on here know how to weld up said diff. mine is on its last legs anyway i think so why not give it a go, if it does my head in, i need a new one anyway

[Bob_S]

diffs can be a bit soft if you abuse them.. if you treat them well they will serve you well!

munky, 25% is plenty you can hang the arseout all day long

[tailoutcharlie]

mine has whined ever since i got it, got knows what horrible things it had to go though before i got hold of it...

i intend to kill it

[bigkev]

fit some spacesaver wheels on the back from a Golf and get an LSD in there, you will be a drift king

[tailoutcharlie]

fit some spacesaver wheels on the back from a Golf and get an LSD in there, you will be a drift king

best idea yet

and may i add, best avatar

[Grimmjar]

using an open diff and you can count backwards:



usind smal tires in high gears (like 3rd) and you can do the same count for your clutch.

i have (nearly) total controll on the drift and use a lsd with 75%. no clutch kickin. only a stearing impulse @ WOT in 3rd gear when ever i want.

[tailoutcharlie]

where'd you get an LSD with 75% lock up?

[Grimmjar]

it comes from an Alpina and was midified by my differential "builder". i also got a Typ 188 with Torsen lock.

[maxfield]

where'd you get an LSD with 75% lock up?

Here, not cheap though

[tailoutcharlie]

man

nothings ever quick and easy to say in german is it

[maxfield]

You can translate the site to English...

Very expensive mind, probably cheaper ways to do it...

[Grimmjar]

for a ZF Locker you can pay about 1300 euro!
so i think these are cheap.

[lenny-d]

if your looking to drift you want the car as low as poss try and have your front suspension set soft and the rear hard withe low profile tires about 40 psi and an lsd or lwd

[Alan31625]

I've driven my 25is very hard for two years without any problems. the diff is perfect and might only fail 1 out of ten times. if it fails its only at the start of a donut and has NEVER failed on a drift. its a standard 25% lock lsd with 17s.
an e30 lowered and hardened with a bit of practice will drift lovely. for the sake of a car you want to learn in weld it and spend the lsd money on something else. you'll live with a welded on the road depending on how posh you are

drifting with an open diff is like playing football with a flat ball, it can be done but its shit

[Alan31625]

[Karan]

where'd you get an LSD with 75% lock up?

Here, not cheap though

pah.....

u can get a kaaz 1.5 or 2 way unit (16 clutch plates) from driftworks for £900

thats the one i'm gonna fit to my e30, id love a fully adjustable nismo gt pro like in my silvia but obviously u cant get those for e30s....

[Dominitry]

Meh, im cheap, welded diff for me, got my e30 sideways once...that had an lsd...was nice but didn't end very well, down to my lack of skillz rather than anything.

[Simon13]

the car doesn't need to be as low as possible to drift at all

[Dominitry]

Nope, body roll is fun, get a kebab down ya just before

[Ritz]

...only when in the mood but I tend to just let the back slip out - no sideways bonkers action. Want my tyres to live longer!

[bmwe30mtech]

Nope, body roll is fun, get a kebab down ya just before

Havent seen you on here in ages mate, where you been

Body roll? Try spinning arround a 316i or 318i on standard setup


As for drifting, cant say i have the skill to drift properly, dont like abusing the sport either (318i was a different story altogether!) Went out with Barry last night though and had some fun sideways roundabout fun in his sport

[Dominitry]

Visiting here made me sad while e30 less, but i've given into the power which is calling me back lol, as for trying to spin around a 316 or 318....i'll let ya know how i get on in a few weeks

[bmwe30mtech]

You getting back behind the e30 wheel again then

318i needs gravel/shit really, then you can spin untill your dizzy without straining it too much, opens diffs are great on gritty surfaces

[Dominitry]

Nah, we were following a 318i at driftwest last month, the skyline couldnt keep up with it while both were sideways, it was stripped out but the dude was manji'in in 4th so they have no problems, will be getting another e30 aye, want something cheap and slag like so i don't stack my jdm bummer car.

[zaust]

Dry and smooth = more smoke... Want some of thoes multi coulord sented drift tyers just for that...

[Dominitry]

Expensive, im gonna have a mate with in passenger seat with colored powder hanging out the window, nobody will ever know.