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Post Wed Aug 08, 2007 2:10 pm

then after andy left i decided to put the bonnet back on......

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not a great pic but im sure that shouldnt happen.

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this is looking through the bonnet before its pushed down to be closed

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side view with bonnet up.

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the other side which is the issue
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Post Wed Aug 08, 2007 2:19 pm

ok vids

dont know how to do these?




http://s209.photobucket.com/albums/bb13 ... V00039.flv

how do i do vids from photobuckt? :squint:
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Post Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:25 pm

help needed!

i got told a guy i know makes balances props but he doesnt!

he can cut and weld but doesnt balance and wont. but i had a good look at his 22 litre funny car!!!! :cool:

he was welding the exhausts on cool!



but now i need a prop place prefer north east so i can drop it off and get it done quick

any ideas people?

help please
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Post Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:35 pm

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Post Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:28 am

Can't help with a prop place up north but my AFM has left an indentation (sp?) on the sound deadening material. My mounts are e30.de copies from karan.

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Post Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:50 am

ah so im not to far off if the sound deadening is getting hit.

well i cant go much lower or i will be hittin the steering rack.

i expect some sagging in the mounts to give me some more space.


where did you get the 335i badge charlie? is it home made or did you get one from BMW for the new 335i?
i dont have a badge i may keep it that way?



photobucket is under constuction so no pics yet.
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Post Thu Aug 09, 2007 11:27 am

ok here are the updates


last night i cut the prop to length and finished the engine mount ready to be welded.

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it needed some adjustment to fit but i think this looks just right

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ready to be tack welded then andy (once again with the help)
will be taking it to be super welded.





2 props (for those with the good eye sight will note i cut one before the photo)

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into 1 prop!
now it need to be fine tuned and tack welded then i will send it to a company near newcastle called 'major and Aspinall'
if they can take it?

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fine job me thinks with the cutting! i used some tape to wrap around the prop (so i got the ends to match up) then i put a small grove all the way round with the angle grinder. then the tape came off and i had a guild to cut through. :D


it seemed really easy to cut through after trying to cut through the 8mm plate for the engine mounts.... :?





right this picture is from inside th engine bay just before the brake servo.

is it the fuel filter? its in the fuel lines but i know on the 325i its near the fuel tank. will it restrict the fuel flow? reason for it not starting the other day?

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please tilt head to the right.
i may try to start it tonight? :twisted:
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Post Thu Aug 09, 2007 12:39 pm

i'm not sure you needed to cut that prop twice Ric? :?

i might be wrong but i was under the impression you use rear 2/3 of the m20 prop incl centre bearing etc, then join the front bit of the e34 prop in front of the bearing?

still, e30 props are cheap enough if you have to get another :D

mounts look good.
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Post Thu Aug 09, 2007 12:53 pm

Toby_Unna wrote:i'm not sure you needed to cut that prop twice Ric? :?

i might be wrong but i was under the impression you use rear 2/3 of the m20 prop incl centre bearing etc, then join the front bit of the e34 prop in front of the bearing?

still, e30 props are cheap enough if you have to get another :D

mounts look good.
Thats right Toby, seemingly the ends are friction welded together. I got Recoprop to do mine and the told me this. They spin one piece of the shaft and ram the end flange in and squeeze it i think.
The friction welds the two together.
Apparantly all BMW shafts are like this and are tricky to do with only a few places able to do them.
BTW i think they replace all the tubing on the modified section anyway and just use the end flanges.
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Post Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:32 pm

hum i got told the e34 centre bearing wasa bit bigger and stronger......

thats why i cut it twice.

its should be ok though?

yeah Ritchie they re-tube it and only use the bearings. but i need to tack them together toget the exact length.

i did have a look at the bearings and thought they were pretty similar..... still the e35 prop should have had a better life as i didnt drive it much :roll:

well i hope this doesn tdouble the cost...... :(
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Post Thu Aug 09, 2007 5:32 pm

ric325i wrote:where did you get the 335i badge charlie? is it home made or did you get one from BMW for the new 335i?
i dont have a badge i may keep it that way?
It's home made out of two 325 badges I had thought about a new one from BM but didn't want the new style/size lettering. I'm thinking about removing mine.... I quite like the idea of a 316 badge :mad:

Your project is coming along nicely mate, if for whatever reason you need another E30 325 prop I've got an old spare one in the shed...

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Post Thu Aug 09, 2007 5:37 pm

Thanks dude that may be useful but i will tell you tomorrow after i have tried to get it fixed.

tonight should be annother epic night i hope!

i may stick with the badge-less look. :wink:
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Post Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:58 am

right for those that are following this conversion i am sorry but no pics today.

last night was a good one as we got the 2nd engine mount in place and tacked up ready to be super wedled.

im having a problem with space right now :(

the rad is too big!

so i have cut off the lip of the rad......fear so much fear.
got it down so the next plan for some extra space is to cut the AC belt holder off. its difficult doing it inside the engine bay but it has to come off!

couldnt do it last night as i was trying to angle grind inside the engine bay and hold the light at the same time.....not a good idea. i even managed to grined my phone slightly (it was my torch) ....oops


next thing to do on sat is get the down pipes on and measure theg Y-piece for the exhaust cut and place.

cut the AC belt holder of the crank

fit the gear linkage if it gets here? hope the post man does his thing.

test the temp sensors and fit if all is good?

might fix the rad and tube it up if i know how? i may do a search unless some one can post some pics of how they have arranged the tubes?


still motivated.......just.



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Post Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:36 am

Dude, you're getting there!

To make cutting off the air con belt holder you can just undo the eight bolts that hold the outer part of the pulley on (not the stupidly tight centre nut that's set to about 450,000 lb/ft torque!) then just run a cutting disc round the centre of the 'V' and the air con belt holder will fall off in two peices.

And in case you don't know - to make the temperature guage work you'll need to use an E30 sensor for it in the thermostat housing.

Best of luck!
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Post Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:49 am

yup 8x 13mm head bolts for the crank pulley Ric, might as well have it off and cut it straight :cool:

we can help with the coolant pipes,they aren't hard if you have all the e34 stuff to hand.

what exactly did you cut off the rad again?! :D 8O

thought i heard on the radio last night royal mail calling off the latest strike, so you might be lucky and get the linkage... not that my bloody oil temp sensor has arrived of course :x
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Post Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:47 am

oh how we love the postal system :evil:

taking the 8 bolts out sounds like a cracking idea on the crank pully! :D better than getting in the bay with the grinder!

cheers boys.


toby the part of the rad posibly didnt need cutting if i go the crank pully.
i will post some pics tomorrow but for now:

explanation:

top and bottom of the rad has some alloy bars running along them, i guess there made for the clips to fit into? in this shape turn this symbol on its side [


i just cut them off to make more space for the dissy cap and the AC pully (which is getting cut off anyway)

i hope i have not damaged it but i may have hit the rad slightly...... :? not sure.....
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Post Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:56 am

it'll be ok!

my rad used to swing backwards because i didn't secure it properly at the bottom because i'm an idiot, and the crank pulley practically ate through the bloody thing. still the same rad on there though, it's fine :D
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Post Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:44 pm

Yeah, should be fine.
The top rail on my radiator has been pushed back slightly by the dizzy cap but it causes no grief.

There is plenty of clearance at the bottom with the air con belt holder cut off.

Are you using the E34 radiator, if so how are you mounting it?
I used two right hand E30 plastic bottom mounting cups, one each side. The left hand one kept unclipping itself from the bodywork so I simply riveted it in place.
I used the standard 325i top plastic bracket with cut down rubbers.

Hope that helps! ?
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Post Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:02 pm

DRIFTBOY wrote: Are you using the E34 radiator, if so how are you mounting it?
I used two right hand E30 plastic bottom mounting cups, one each side. The left hand one kept unclipping itself from the bodywork so I simply riveted it in place.
I used the standard 325i top plastic bracket with cut down rubbers.

Hope that helps! ?
yeah man! i am using a e34 rad and the top clip thing i will cut down :D

i really want to throw away the bottom left mount as it just falls off all the time! your plan is class driftboy (dont know name sorry)

yes boys that does help!

with the AC belt off there will be space, i thought i was doing a bit of a bodge :roll: so its good to hear im not the only one!

the rails on the rad are fine i know they dont do anything so chop-chop.

toby you lazy git :teehee:
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Post Sun Aug 12, 2007 9:29 am

i had to cut the a/c belt part off too. i found there are about 5 spot welds on it, these hold the a/c part onto the rest. i managed to cut mine off quite neatly once i'd ground away at these welds.

oh, the bottom of my rad is held onto the front panel with tye wraps :D
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Post Sun Aug 12, 2007 11:19 am

[quote="ric325i]

explanation:

top and bottom of the rad has some alloy bars running along them, i guess there made for the clips to fit into? in this shape turn this symbol on its side [


i just cut them off to make more space for the dissy cap and the AC pully (which is getting cut off anyway)

i hope i have not damaged it but i may have hit the rad slightly...... :? not sure.....[/quote]

I've done the same to my rad but only at the top. I've got no a/c or power steering so I could completely ditch that pulley.

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Post Sun Aug 12, 2007 11:44 am

how do you find the car with no power steering? what rack are you using?
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Post Sun Aug 12, 2007 11:53 am

It came from the factory like it, Mine was a prefacelift 316 auto m10. (shit thats wrong :roll: ) Although to be fair it went quite well. :mad:

To mount it at the top I used an M40 engine top rad mount and extended the rubbers.

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Post Sun Aug 12, 2007 11:58 am

Gareth mine's a standard PAS rack disconnected and with unions plugged (to satisfy the MOT bloke.) it's absolutely fine :D
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Post Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:09 pm

hum no power steering is something i have been thinking about for some time.

thursday night progress:

removing the viscous fan wa becoming a nightmare :x no tool fit!

so made one out of 5mm scrap metal, had a good handle actually

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with that removed i started the rad chopping.
glad to hear more people have done it.


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next was the AC crank belt holder thing to come off.
i decided not to take the 8 bolts off as i had a bit of space to get the grinder in and cut it away.

better in day light as i used my mobile as a torch and put a few cuts in that....oops

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glad thats off


next is the exhaust.

these are a few of the bits.

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one flange is on the Y-peice already but the weather up here is anul and keeps raining!



im doing a toby unna special with the gear linkage as i got posted the bottom bar but not the pivot bar! :?

cut, drilled, 2 plates and some bolts. this will have to do for now as time is super short!

has to be done by saturday the 18th.......tick tock
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Post Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:12 pm

toby are you still using the scrap yard special?
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Post Sun Aug 12, 2007 4:05 pm

johnl320 wrote:

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john

love that engine mount john!

i didnt think to extend it across the engine adn then down to the mount!
thats a clever thought.

it would have been much better and they look very strong!
also they get around any problem of getting at the bolts!

sweet man.

take a look at mine for that side its actually a work of art but in a less tech way.


right sun is out its time to do some more stuff.

i have to lower the gear box down to get to the clutch slave cylinder and then i will attach the bodged gear linkage :?

lets hope the rain holds out.

might set the fan in place and tube the rad in?

anyone got any pics of how the header tank tubes in?
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Post Sun Aug 12, 2007 10:47 pm

right a bit more to report on.

i had to get the gear linkage sorted so as i said before i crafted this

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it wont stay on forever but it should do for now and the z3 gear shifter feels great! :D good purchase from the zone bmw factory shop.

oh and i wanted some more storage space for my move to manchester so i kicked the ski hatch in winkeye
i had the seats out as i have moved the battery to the boot. ltook longer than i expected to be honest. :? but the kicking eased the pain.

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oh and now the best bit the beast breaths fire!!!!!!! :banana:

so happy!

i spent about 20mins trying to start the m30 but it would not fire. after last week with it not starting i was frustrated and confused but then...


i remembered last time we tried to start the m30 we could not smell fuel and andy suggested switching the fuel lines round adn guess what :D

this video should explain all ( slightly embarrassing though)

http://s209.photobucket.com/albums/bb13 ... V00049.flv

i dont know if this is the best way to post a vid?
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Post Sun Aug 12, 2007 10:56 pm

:woohoo:

Well tat is certainly the best way - and the traditional way - to start up a 335! :D 8)


Congrats dude, it's a great feeling ain't it!?

Not long now! winkeye
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Post Sun Aug 12, 2007 11:01 pm

oh yes its feels good!

and when andy comes round tomorrow night i may have to start it up again? :roll:

my dad even came out and smiled.......he also said it was bloody load :D
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Post Sun Aug 12, 2007 11:05 pm

The first time I got mine started my next door neighbour came rushing outside thinking someone was stealing his Yamaha Dragstar 1100! :)

I apologised for the noise but he said "Sounds great, you're not going to put an exhaust on it, are you?!" :D :?
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Post Sun Aug 12, 2007 11:10 pm

Ha ha :cool:
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Post Sun Aug 12, 2007 11:11 pm

DRIFTBOY wrote:The first time I got mine started my next door neighbour came rushing outside thinking someone was stealing his Yamaha Dragstar 1100! :)

I apologised for the noise but he said "Sounds great, you're not going to put an exhaust on it, are you?!" :D :?
hahahahaha

class!

i just showed my brother the video and he doesnt understand the shear power!

he think it sounds rough but no its my dragster :D
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Post Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:13 am

:banana: :woohoo: nice one matey :thumb: it's all coming along nicely. Do you have any more photo's of exhuast parts and how it's going together?? I need inspiration for sorting mine properly, it's the only part on mine that's letting it down...

Where did you get the tubing and what boxes are you using?

Do you need a E30 325 gearshift top linkage (don't know what you call it) that the shifter bolts into?? I've got a spare one from a breaker.

Good work matey :cool:

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Post Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:02 am

cool, well done ric, getting there now :cool:

that gear link bar looks fine, i'm still using mine. i've not tried using m20 parts on my car but as the position you put the engine in affects where the lever comes up, i reckon it's no bad thing having the link adjustable. i spent a fair while fiddling until the lever position was perfect

lol @ Martin!
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