M3 Touring conversion number 2 - UPDATED 02/08

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All I can say is

IMMENSE BEAST. FAST AS F**K
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Mon Jul 09, 2007 7:37 pm

excellent work dameon, looks awesome

what was the final time and cost totals?
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old_skool_2002 wrote:To quote Gordon Ramsey....."S50 Conversion.....DONE"

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tbmw wrote:excellent work dameon, looks awesome

what was the final time and cost totals?
Not sure yet Tony. I would like to say that I haven't had time to work it out.

Truth is that I am scared to :cry:

Without doing the math I think we are at around the £5k mark including buying the car. I really need to look into it and look at the cost of the bits I have borrowed from my other one, bits I have sold etc. Bear in mind I have fitted an E36 Z3 rack, full leather and A/C as well as doing the S50. When I will have a truer figure I will let you know.
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Mon Jul 09, 2007 8:09 pm

old_skool_2002 wrote:When I will have a truer figure I will let you know.
.....and make sure Paul is sitting down when he hears it! 8O winkeye
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old_skool_2002 wrote:When I will have a truer figure I will let you know.
.....and make sure Paul is sitting down when he hears it! 8O winkeye
:lol:

Paul.....Paul, why aren't you breathing?

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Mon Jul 09, 2007 8:49 pm

old_skool_2002 wrote:Gareth, If you take the pump apart a little bit you'll see how I did it! Just apply 12v to the three solenoids and to the pump motor in a sort of sequence. This just shakes it up and helps to bleed it.

Wasn't rocket science, I just wanted to make sure that I was not going to kill anyone with the information should it be posted in a tech article with pin numbers and a description of how to do it!


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Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:11 pm

thanx dameon

only really ask cos i want to do this conversion and would like a ball park estimate of cost before i start( when i say i, i actually meant the mrs/accountant)
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Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:54 pm

you will be looking at 5k.. Mine has come out same £Â£ as Daemons to be honest

Guess its my go to have the next one on the public highway..

Daemon, how difficult was it to move the bwakect inside the caw 4 the bwake sevo move? How did you do it?

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PS video's of it wunning ow :ban: :twisted:
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Mon Jul 09, 2007 10:05 pm

It was easy to move the bwacket. Weally easy in fact. I'll give you a wing tomowwow and talk it thwough ok?


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(Sorry, couldn't help it! Sat here with in fits!!!!)
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:lol:

(Sorry, couldn't help it! Sat here with in fits!!!!)[/quote]

glad i'm not the only one

back on topic, 5k doesnt seem to bad , canlive with that, whether my accountant/mrs can is another matter
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Mon Jul 09, 2007 10:09 pm

Dameon, It's bad too see a mod taking the mick out of a impediment.

I'm sure Dan is wealy wealy sowwy that he is talking like that, modewators should set a better example :lol:
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Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:28 am

top job damo, cars looking good and running sssssswwwwweeeeeeeeetttt.
all you need to do now is let me have it for a day or 2.. winkeye winkeye
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Feck of Dave and Daemon.. I'll tell the mods on you.. 8O

Do you think the M3 aibox will fit with the heada on the wing? i dont have abs.. Is it the same as a 325/eight one?
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Not sure about that. I'll have a look later on for you.

Will report back.
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my heada isnt mounted yet so it can be 'adjusted' slightly if necessawy
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Tue Jul 10, 2007 3:57 pm

this is unbelievable... someone will have to do a complete guide on fitting this engine to an e30, as I'd be interested to sum up costs, parts and also wiring needs, chassis mods etc

brilliant work again! winkeye
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Im confused as to what you did with the lambda.. M3 ones ae Titania Sensors not Ziconia accowding to the site..
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Will 3.2 Evo sensas wok with a 3.0?
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Jhonno wrote:Will 3.2 Evo sensas wok with a 3.0?
It depends on what site you look at, but they are Zirconia sensors. Titania sensors tend to have coloured wires present. Also I think Titania sensors came about much later.

Zirconia four wire sensors have 2 x white wires for the heater, (they are not sensitive to polarity) 1 x grey signal wire and 1 x black signal wire. From what I have read four wire Zirconia give the operate on the same values. The reason the part number is different is because of the plug and the cable length.

Mine are working just fine regardless 8)
Sy_325 wrote:this is unbelievable... someone will have to do a complete guide on fitting this engine to an e30, as I'd be interested to sum up costs, parts and also wiring needs, chassis mods etc

brilliant work again!
Thanks, but I couldn't have done it without the help of many of the members who pioneered the conversion. As far as cost is concerned, allow five grand and you shouldn't be disappointed. There is all the information you need on the Zone to do this conversion. I don't think a complete guide will be possible because the conversion can be carried out in so many different ways.


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Wed Jul 11, 2007 4:31 pm

old_skool_2002 wrote:As far as cost is concerned, allow five grand and you shouldn't be disappointed.
Does that include the cost of the BTB manifold/exhaust? IIRC thats about £1500 isnt it?
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Skip wrote:
old_skool_2002 wrote:As far as cost is concerned, allow five grand and you shouldn't be disappointed.
Does that include the cost of the BTB manifold/exhaust? IIRC thats about £1500 isnt it?
£2003.58 to be exact.

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Skip wrote:
old_skool_2002 wrote:As far as cost is concerned, allow five grand and you shouldn't be disappointed.
Does that include the cost of the BTB manifold/exhaust? IIRC thats about £1500 isnt it?
£2003.58 to be exact.

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Ouch...!

So without it and some home fabricating you can do it for £2996.42p! winkeye
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Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:49 pm

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Jhonno wrote:Will 3.2 Evo sensas wok with a 3.0?
It depends on what site you look at, but they are Zirconia sensors.

Zirconia four wire sensors have 2 x white wires for the heater, (they are not sensitive to polarity) 1 x grey signal wire and 1 x black signal wire.
Well hopefully Ive got the right sensors - mine have 2 white, 1 black, 1 grey. They are Bosch universal ones but have the correct part numbers for the 3.0ltr M3.
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ok, the site lists 3.2 and 3.0 as both the same type.. just wondeing if they will wok..

So what sensas did you end up using then? soz if im being thick
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Pay attention FFS :lol:

I used the M3 evo sensors and cut the plugs off.
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:o: :o: :o: :o:

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old_skool_2002 wrote:
Skip wrote:
old_skool_2002 wrote:As far as cost is concerned, allow five grand and you shouldn't be disappointed.
Does that include the cost of the BTB manifold/exhaust? IIRC thats about £1500 isnt it?
£2003.58 to be exact.

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Any new on the aibox?

think i'd watha wun one than a cone..
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Sorry mate, been up to my eyes in work for the last day or so.

I'll have a close look tomowwow winkeye
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:p

Ok cool.. Not actually at home atm so cant do anything.. just wanna go back with all the info and cwack on with it :)
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Just a thought for all the S50B30 guys, I just bought some new spark plugs for mine. They are Bosch Y5DDC, from the dealer they are around £60 for a set even with my discount. There is a guy username "mickstaps" on ebay that sells genuine Bosch plugs for much less. I bought all six for £21 delivered and they came next day.

I have checked and they are genuine proper Bosch kit - sealed and new. Not for S50B32 though, different plug, although I'm sure he would sell them.

Hope that saves you some hard earned £Â£Ã‚£ :D
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Alweady bought mine last summa.. Paid 4 managments hols with my spend on pats fwom thee last yea
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