Surprised no-one has posted this today
I though competition helped progress, but this is wRong, with a capitol R!
http://www.topgear.com/content/news/stories/2011/
NNNoooooooooo !
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march109
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tailoutcharlie
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nnnnnnnnnnnoooooooo,
before you know it, every beemer will be silver with an old man autobox shoved up its driveshaft.
before you know it, every beemer will be silver with an old man autobox shoved up its driveshaft.
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Gortour
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At least they're only talking about the Mini and the A(rse)-class... 
Take heart chaps, our E30s are QUITE safe from the terrible inflictions of the dreaded Muck-aides...
Take heart chaps, our E30s are QUITE safe from the terrible inflictions of the dreaded Muck-aides...
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Gortour
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And Chris, my E30 has an auto box shoved up its driveshaft... Still, at least it's not silver too...
Ok, I'm an old man... I admit it...
Ok, I'm an old man... I admit it...
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e30bmlover
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this is @ucking stupid! just like when bmw took over mini and started selling them, the mini will never be accepted in my eyes and neither will this!
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it makes no difference to me either way but ive always felt mercs were a classier marque after hiring many different models over the years.
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tailoutcharlie
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i was in cottys auto in newquay and it was no slouch. my view of mercs has been tainted by the three i drove as taxis, the boxes were sluggish as hell and, well generally crapAnd Chris, my E30 has an auto box shoved up its driveshaft... Still, at least it's not silver too...
Ok, I'm an old man... I admit it...
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Gortour
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Mercs are nice cruisers, they're for sitting on the motorway all day at 80-90.
Or posing in around town with the radio pumping, and your arm out the window...
If you want something that handles, or want to get somewhere in a hurry, get a BMW..
Or posing in around town with the radio pumping, and your arm out the window...
If you want something that handles, or want to get somewhere in a hurry, get a BMW..
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Mercs are sh!t, end of.
They're deperate, hence the deal.
They're deperate, hence the deal.
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SamiS
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ohe30bmlover wrote:this is @ucking stupid! just like when bmw took over mini and started selling them, the mini will never be accepted in my eyes and neither will this!
i quite like minis... this was the last one i had - 
and another:
Loved it to peices at the time, but would prefer a nice e30 any day now
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Minis are front wheel drive though.... Murkydes are welcome to them.
As long as they get nothing of the main brand... Though I do wonder if Chris Bangle is employed by Murk to screw up the designs so as to up the Murk market...
As long as they get nothing of the main brand... Though I do wonder if Chris Bangle is employed by Murk to screw up the designs so as to up the Murk market...
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BadDave
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This is just Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
WRONG
best to leave them as competitors rather than bedfellows
WRONG
best to leave them as competitors rather than bedfellows
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Sleeping with the enemy!
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BadDave
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Yeah maybeaceraf wrote:Sleeping with the enemy!
BUT
STILL
Fucked up
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The thing that makes manufacturer's strive to improve is competiton....
you always need a marker to beat....
if you join, then it'll end up like porsche, where they make cars to meet a market demand instead of making a car the best it can be!
you always need a marker to beat....
if you join, then it'll end up like porsche, where they make cars to meet a market demand instead of making a car the best it can be!
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They do already. Compare modern M BMWs with the E30 M3...aceraf wrote:The thing that makes manufacturer's strive to improve is competiton....
you always need a marker to beat....
if you join, then it'll end up like porsche, where they make cars to meet a market demand instead of making a car the best it can be!
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BadDave
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IMOaceraf wrote:The thing that makes manufacturer's strive to improve is competiton....
you always need a marker to beat....
if you join, then it'll end up like porsche, where they make cars to meet a market demand instead of making a car the best it can be!
Too many manufacturers are conducting "joint" projects.
OK it halves the design/production costs leading to more PROFIT
BUT
The designers are failing to make individual models significantly different from all the others thats currently available.
Hence quite a lot of cars looking the same, but from different manufacturers.
It looks like all the car designers are reading from the same page of the same book.
It's getting to the point where it's only the "little" things which distinguish one model of car from another.
It's just not good enough
It's only the small independant companies that are coming out with,what you could call"different" cars now