WHAT IS THE ZONE FOR ?

[cliffybabe]

i honestly think i would cry if the Zone was discontinued!!!

What would i do with no more Zone?? I'd have to talk to char more often, Sod that

[M5pilot]

i personally think sal should back away from this groupbuy and either let kos continue
or let someone else approach the supplier if theres a demand worthy of an approach

not trying to drag it on and sorry if i have Ant

just pissed me off that it happened and could happen again

Open your eyes and read what I have written again. We BACKED OFF.

WE ADMITTED IT WAS A MISTAKE.

WHAT ELSE WOULD YOU LIKE?

[Speedtouch]

Donation of your M5...to me

[m-dtech]

i dissagree with the fact that a trader is a moderator. and there is a dedicated part of the zone that one sole person is gaining profit from.

zone shop = zone profit

prices on the zone shop are not that fantastic anyway, just need to google the parts you want and generaly you can find them cheaper.

[E30BeemerLad]

Sal ain't a moderator dude, just has mod function in the E30Zone Shop section.

[M5pilot]

Correction - Not a Sole Person. Two people in Partnership who make XS Performance, a seperate entity to the Zone.

[Ant]

i dissagree with the fact that a trader is a moderator. and there is a dedicated part of the zone that one sole person is gaining profit from.

dude, as I have previously explained, Salman and Imran can "moderate" the shop forum only, and are not part of the Admin and Group Moderation team as a whole.

[m-dtech]

Correction - Not a Sole Person. Two people in Partnership who make XS Performance, a seperate entity to the Zone.

clearly not, as its having an impact.

[Speedtouch]

sepArate

[Gortour]

without XSP or a group buy as propsed originally by Kos , that 15-20% discount is non existant, so either situation would save the purchaser some funds, all good for all concerned.

If you were involved in the original group buy, Ant, would you rather have had Kos's price of 20% off, or Sal's takeover price of 15% off? Agreed with your statement that they still have 15%, but they're still 5% down... I'd be p*ssed off too if I'd been involved.

Sorry to butt in everyone, the only ones to my mind who should really be commenting are the people involved in the original Group Buy with Kos. They are the guys who have lost 5% discount on their goods. But as others are having their say...

[Cotty]

What is the main reason for the e30zone ??

For people to help other people like this

http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... ic&t=56349

[Geoff]

Right guys, I have spent god knows how long reading everyone's posting and believe I have understood the foundations from where this post has begun, or reborn from a previous post.

By taking everything at face value, it is clear in my mind that the entity that is XS Performance made a fundamental error in the choice of actions taken. That is a given.

However It was stated on several occasions, that an apology for the events being discussed was issued. In my personal opinion no one can do anything more than that gesture. That is having your hands held up and admitting you were wrong. What else can you do after thats been said? Its an end of the line situation in my eyes.

I believe XS Performance 99.9% of the time have the members best interest's at heart. Why would they do product testing to promote whats best for us performance wise, price wise? If they didnt care, they would sell anything and everything like a Demon Tweeks catalogue.

Im not naive enough to think that everything i buy im getting the best deal for. Im sure im getting a good deal, but price is not always the overiding factor in choice when purchases are to be made. And if you dont agree with that, thats fine but in a sales oriented world there are other factors that are contributing drivers to selling products.

With regards to it being unfair to have just one represented parts trader, if the Zone open it up to others, it is most likely going to become a free for all. Which is why for good reason blatant trading is not allowed. Just look at virtually every other forum out there, not just for cars, their terms and conditions state no trading or your will be banned/suspended.

So why should we soley have XS performance then? He got there first!! Im sorry if that doesnt wash but its true. Sal's been around since things started, and has made big in roads to get where he is today. Businesses like this dont just pop up over night.

If your not happy with the products stocked and you think you can get a better deal elsewhere, its your right to shop around. I do it all the time, as do most people. Thats business.

At the end of the day you can please some people some of the time, but you cant please all people all of the time.

Mods, maybe you should do a vote with a selection of ideas on the trading side of things and get a view of the members perception on how they would lie to see things go.

Some of this post may actually have wondered into foreign territory, but the thread is soo long i've lost my way a touch!

Vive Le Zone!!

[stuartgallafant]

At the end of the day you can please some people some of the time, but you cant please all people all of the time

the great Bob Marley said that...

[Pal318is]

I can't believe this thread is still going, surely everyone has had there say, apologies have been made, talk about longing it fookin out....bugger it in going for a phat one^^^^ it's too early for it, but i don't care anymore

Pal

[stuartgallafant]

pal, pass the dutchie 'mon...

[Pal318is]

pal, pass the dutchie 'mon...

Wot on the lef' side

[stuartgallafant]

yeh 'mon...

[Pal318is]

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[Royalratch]

I hate reggae.

[stuartgallafant]

then dont ever speak to me again!!!

[Royalratch]

You can't like reggae man! It's for spanish stoner-students who want are trying to find themselves!


Now, In an affort to refer this thread back to what shall now be known as 'The Great Rollcage Fisaco of 06', had everyone excerised some of Bob Marley's peace and iree wisdom, perhaps everything could have been sorted before the madness kicked off...

[Theo]

'The Great Rollcage Fisaco of 06'

I thought it was 2007?

[Royalratch]

Stay on topic Theo for christs sake!

[DaveD]

Zone will be registered as non profit making - we are just trying cover costs and to make sure the Zone future is secure !

when this happens how will it work ,will there be a constitution ,and who will make the rules and will we ,as members, be able to have some input.

[Royalratch]

I'd pay to use the Zone.

If it meant it stays around and get's better...

Start a poll chaps. Pay or not?

[march109]

I'd pay to use the Zone.

If it meant it stays around and get's better...

Start a poll chaps. Pay or not?

think we llready had on a while back, interestingly mods were as against it as normal users and they pay for the zone out of their own pockets.

[GDBN]

Already been done ....

[Royalratch]

Money could go toward a lot of cool things for the zone.

A full time dude to service the site, faster/bigger hosting etc.

Anyway, that's of topic...

[fuzzy]

I'd pay to use the Zone.

If it meant it stays around and get's better...

Start a poll chaps. Pay or not?

id pay a small fee as well,you cant expect the people who run it to do it free of charge or from out of their own pockets.does anyone else on here work for free? i doubt it.

[daimlerman]

What has been done has been done.S**t happens.Sal has apologised(spel ceck)I feel that A zone shop,run by the zone,for the benifit of the zone,would be an asset.Not too certain if this should be a part of Sals current business or acompletly different set up,perhaps using Sals skills and contacts in some form as a consultant?I would be prepared to pay an annual(spel cek again)fee in much the same way as I pay one to the Daimler and Lanchester Owners Club Ltd.This zone is a fantastic site,lets settle this matter and move on to the important things,like keeping our E30s running.

[Royalratch]

Respect.

[tim-ix]

I really like this site and would be prepared to pay a (small) fee. I worry that this would reduce dramatically the number of users posting here though and I wouldn't enjoy it is much if there were only the same few posters contributing. The sheer variety of points of view and approaches to E30 ownership, from the likes of Jon, MFree and others with their immaculate M3s to erm, others, with, erm, rather less exotic cars is why I read this site every day so I hope whatever is decided won't detract from the site and if it does the mods will keep it all under review.

[dibdab]

Long thread. Having briefly read it, I only have a short lunch, I think that maybe in future if there is to be a group buy, then maybe the shop should be given the opportunity to better or match the intended discount. This way the members benefit and so does the sponsor, assuming of course the shop sponsors the Zone which I expect it does.

By the way is Mfrees car finished yet?

[fuzzy]

By the way is Mfrees car finished yet?

thats a whole new can of worms.cant be far away now though

[Pal318is]

By the way is Mfrees car finished yet?

thats a whole new can of worms.cant be far away now though

^^ what he said, that a can of snakes, let alone worms...

Pal