M30 throttle bodies

Discuss general engine, turbo and supercharger conversions in this section

Moderator: martauto

glenn
Engine Transplant Services
Engine Transplant Services
Posts: 2198
Joined: Sat Jan 29, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: blackwood, south wales

Thu Dec 21, 2006 5:48 pm

excellent work toby
it's looking horny as hell mate

ps.........
maxfield wrote:
update the sig
your sig pic is so last year! :lol:
maxfield
Old Skooler
Old Skooler
Posts: 15186
Joined: Sat Nov 26, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Mansfield

Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:08 pm

glenn wrote:excellent work toby
it's looking horny as hell mate

ps.........
maxfield wrote:
update the sig
your sig pic is so last year! :lol:
eat my shorts
Image
Silverfang
E30 Zone Regular
E30 Zone Regular
Posts: 937
Joined: Fri Dec 23, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Northampton

Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:32 pm

:eek: :eek: 8) 8)

Loving that, can't wait to see a power curve, hope it'll have decent torque, should do with that!
BMW and Opel, both RWD, both german, both good fun
http://www.clockservicing.co.uk/ For any clock repairs try here.
User avatar
buster
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 3779
Joined: Sun Jan 09, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Near middlesbrough,Teesside

Fri Dec 22, 2006 1:01 am

looks spunktastic mate :cool:
good work
gareth
E30 Zone Team Member
E30 Zone Team Member
Posts: 11009
Joined: Tue Jan 11, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: hastings, east sussex

Sun Dec 24, 2006 10:41 am

every time you post something, my car just seems slower!
Sole founder of Fe2O3-12V it's a lifestyle
Image
LSD rebuilding / modification services provided, PM for details
appletree
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 3482
Joined: Fri Jan 20, 2006 11:00 pm
Location: Retford

Sun Dec 24, 2006 11:51 am

looking good fella any chance you could give me abit more info on how you moved the servo/master cylinder? i need to do this for my S/c conversion.

also is there enough room between the servo and you plenum for when the engine rocks about????
Image

You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity

M42 Supercharged 285bhp + M3 6speed box
Toby_Unna
Boost Junkie
Posts: 2183
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Sheffield

Sun Dec 24, 2006 9:06 pm

Appletree...

the plenum is actually isolated from the inlet trumpets, it's only connected to the engine by those rubber boots. there's a little room to spare anyway, i'm not expecting major vibration issues.

with ref to the servo, most of it should be in this thread with pics mate :cool:

if you remove the glovebox what i have done should be fairly clear. although i'm not sure if you could do this without fitting the smaller diameter Golf servo as i have... if this not clear i'll help in any way i can 8)
Image
ed325i
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 4146
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm

Mon Dec 25, 2006 10:06 am

I cant see what they have done with the servo on this.

Image
Gabi_323i
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 47
Joined: Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:00 pm

Mon Dec 25, 2006 5:46 pm

Jon_Bmw
Dangerous when thinking
Dangerous when thinking
Posts: 7606
Joined: Tue Jan 11, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Salisbury

Wed Dec 27, 2006 12:17 am

Toby just seen the older version of you car(m30 inlet mani) in PPC, stocking present :D Nice write up on it fella, it must be a couple of months behind you :cool:
Toby_Unna
Boost Junkie
Posts: 2183
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Sheffield

Wed Dec 27, 2006 7:59 pm

Jon_Bmw wrote:Toby just seen the older version of you car(m30 inlet mani) in PPC, stocking present :D Nice write up on it fella, it must be a couple of months behind you :cool:
older version? oh, you mean the working version :lol:

it has to run a few months behind to give me a chance to sort out all the problems :D
Image
Toby_Unna
Boost Junkie
Posts: 2183
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Sheffield

Wed Dec 27, 2006 8:03 pm

i think that red car probably does have the hydraulic servo, but as it's only half finished in that pic some of the fluid lines etc are not installed.

it also looks a lot lot nicer than my shed under the bonnet :(
Image
oze30
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 4133
Joined: Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Sydney

Sat Dec 30, 2006 4:30 am

what management are you using? Would you be able to run a normal ecu when not force inducting it?
Demlotcrew
E30 Zone Team Member
E30 Zone Team Member
Posts: 13329
Joined: Mon Dec 20, 2004 11:00 pm
Location: East Anglia

Sat Dec 30, 2006 9:44 am

Gabi_323i wrote:mounted the e28 hidraulic servo?

http://realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?mod ... g=34&fg=25
I dont think they have as the associated plumbing/expansion tanks and the master cylinder would be much further up towards the front of the car.

Andrew
Toby_Unna
Boost Junkie
Posts: 2183
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Sheffield

Fri Jan 26, 2007 3:11 pm

it's alive :eek:

first turn of the key too, straight to life. video'd it, but my camera didn't work properly :x

idles nice and flat and revs nicely, but not sensible to drive it today, need to tidy the wiring and make sure a few bits are tightened up properly lol.
Image
DRIFTBOY
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 3131
Joined: Mon May 22, 2006 11:00 pm
Location: Kent

Fri Jan 26, 2007 3:19 pm

:clap: :clap: :clap:

Nice one Toby!

Glad it started ok for you with no problems, well done!

Bet you can't wait to road test it! ? winkeye
Jeremy Clarkson wrote:...but it drives the front wheels. Theee wrooong wheels!
da4x4turbo wrote:I raced a vivaro on the motorway once in a 318is.... and lost!!!
E30BeemerLad
Married to the E30 Zone
Married to the E30 Zone
Posts: 16806
Joined: Mon Mar 28, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Norfolk

Fri Jan 26, 2007 3:21 pm

good work dude
Just got the latest PPC mag, 330bhp at 7psi on the original setup, man that's good
Toby_Unna
Boost Junkie
Posts: 2183
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Sheffield

Fri Jan 26, 2007 3:27 pm

just went and road tested it anyway, but only to move it round the corner.

goes ok, but needs Ant to come and make it run nicely again :D
Image
d6dph
Married to the E30 Zone
Married to the E30 Zone
Posts: 12435
Joined: Sun Aug 14, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Tiptree. Essex

Fri Jan 26, 2007 3:28 pm

Top work Toby. Be interesting to see if it was worth the work rather than just to look pretty.
Image
Toby_Unna
Boost Junkie
Posts: 2183
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Sheffield

Fri Jan 26, 2007 3:41 pm

few photos of a very untidy engine bay (for now) :D

Image

Image

Image

chocolate block on the TPS leads :eek:
Image
User avatar
buster
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 3779
Joined: Sun Jan 09, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Near middlesbrough,Teesside

Fri Jan 26, 2007 4:15 pm

nice one toby,it looks awesome,im glad you got it all working ok.
e30_Turbo
Boost Junkie
Posts: 3158
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: East Anglia

Fri Jan 26, 2007 4:30 pm

Well done Toby!

:clap: :clap: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :clap: 8) :banana:
Image
User avatar
adamS
E30 Zone Regular
E30 Zone Regular
Posts: 437
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Washington near Newcastle

Fri Jan 26, 2007 5:09 pm

Good effort! :cool:
oze30
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 4133
Joined: Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Sydney

Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:32 pm

Wheres the AFM??

If you run the ITB's.. do you need afm? if so, where to put it on a non FI car?
Ant
Retired Team Member
Retired Team Member
Posts: 10496
Joined: Tue Dec 21, 2004 11:00 pm
Location: PD+E dept :D
Contact:

Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:00 pm

Wheres the AFM??
In the bin where it belongs :D

no point in spending time and money on an ITB setup to make the whole lot breath through a restrictive AFM

Toby, PM replied too mate, you sorted the 02 boss BTW ?
Product Development and Endurance for Delphi.

Original performance chips, original works not unlicensed copies :D Email FTW
Toby_Unna
Boost Junkie
Posts: 2183
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Sheffield

Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:26 pm

read and replied :cool:

no forgot about that, but i will do. soon go through that old boss with the grinder and stick a nice new one on :D
Image
Andy335Touring
Married to the E30 Zone
Married to the E30 Zone
Posts: 7144
Joined: Sun Jan 09, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Long Eaton,Nottingham
Contact:

Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:05 pm

Cool ! I didn't know it was running ! :cool:

Thanks for the name drop in PPC :D
jkarran
E30 Zone Regular
E30 Zone Regular
Posts: 327
Joined: Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:00 pm
Location: Isle of Man

Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:58 am

:cool: Nice.

Where are you getting O2 bung from?
Ant
Retired Team Member
Retired Team Member
Posts: 10496
Joined: Tue Dec 21, 2004 11:00 pm
Location: PD+E dept :D
Contact:

Sat Jan 27, 2007 11:00 am

Thanks for the name drop in PPC
yeah, ditto that for me :thumb:

1 Bar spring this time Toby winkeye
Product Development and Endurance for Delphi.

Original performance chips, original works not unlicensed copies :D Email FTW
Toby_Unna
Boost Junkie
Posts: 2183
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Sheffield

Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:10 pm

Ant wrote:
1 Bar spring this time Toby winkeye
not touched it since friday, been abroad. it's going to get it now though :twisted:

only problem is there's no way of knowing which spring is which - i got 5 or 8 of the buggers with the WG. maybe i'll make some shims up instead.
Image
e21Jason
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 2040
Joined: Tue Jan 11, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Dubai, UAE

Wed Jan 31, 2007 11:22 pm

Hi Toby

Try a simple spring balane put a stack of2p's or something on top of the springs and measure the compresion, at least you can grade them from hard to soft then

Jason
Toby_Unna
Boost Junkie
Posts: 2183
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Sheffield

Thu Feb 01, 2007 11:13 pm

thanks jason, did try that already but didn't have the patience. think i've got it figured - i have a black spring that apparently will give 1.1 bar. :twisted:
Image
Toby_Unna
Boost Junkie
Posts: 2183
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Sheffield

Sat Feb 03, 2007 4:44 pm

tidyed things up a bit today, so here are a few more shots. looks nice, drives like a total bag of nails though! guess it's to be expected really. actually starts far better than it did before and idles nicely on warmup, but runs stinking rich and despite driving it a bit i haven't been able to do much about it. basically it needs the talent and expertise of a certain mr. woodjetts :D

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

crazy water plumbing!

Image
Image
User avatar
buster
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 3779
Joined: Sun Jan 09, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Near middlesbrough,Teesside

Sat Feb 03, 2007 4:54 pm

Nice one Toby,fair play mate.I didnt think you were going to get that thing on there !!
bigkev
E30 Zone Regular
E30 Zone Regular
Posts: 612
Joined: Wed Jul 27, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: hibernating till summer

Sat Feb 03, 2007 5:51 pm

Toby i read in the last issue of PPC that the guy with the blown Minor had some issues with the rearmost cylinder running lean due to the shape of the manifold (the same volume for all cylinders) do you think you will have this problem with the intake on the end of the plenum chamber , reason i ask is i need to start making a manifold for the M50 and i want to make sure i get it right first time :)
Image
Post Reply