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Post Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:00 pm

Well i finally got round to fitting the exhaust to my 335 touring today so it sounds a little less like a Spitfire at the end of the runway :D
I fitted a standard Boysen 325 system to the M30 down-pipes just for now and it was surprisingly easy :eek: Its nice a quiet and stealthy which is just how i wanted it as well 8) No badges no bodykits just a standard looking Sterling Silver tourer wearing 15" BBS's and that about it :P
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Post Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:12 pm

:ttiwwp:

C'mon I need to see this exhaust, I got to start thinking about mine soon

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Post Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:21 pm

johnl320 wrote::ttiwwp:

C'mon I need to see this exhaust, I got to start thinking about mine soon

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Take a look at a twin pipe system on any 325i mate and it will look similar :)
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Post Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:22 pm

:D

in the long run, keeping your eyes peeled for a M3 one would be worth it as it's the same bore as the original M30 system whereas the 325i one is a bit smaller.
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Post Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:25 pm

gareth wrote::D

in the long run, keeping your eyes peeled for a M3 one would be worth it as it's the same bore as the original M30 system whereas the 325i one is a bit smaller.
Size isn't everything mate winkeye
I don't want a big exhaust but i may get one made for it that is a bit more free-flowing but not lairy or cheesy if you know what i mean.
First hurdle for me is keeping it long enough to warrant the expense as i'm already getting the 'urge' to get the engine stand out again :mad:
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Post Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:35 pm

my scorpion M3 exhaust gives the game away somewhat (you've heard it!!!) but i reckon a OE bmw one would be a load quieter. i was looking for whatever M3 spec one i could find and this was what came up but i would have rather used a genuine one for the sleeper effect.

what's the plan with the engine stand? ford again or something more special?
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Post Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:54 pm

gareth wrote: what's the plan with the engine stand? ford again or something more special?
The Fords are no longer with me mate hadn't you noticed?
Probably the same again although should a 4.4 V8 lump or M5 (e34) come my way i'd be up for the challenge :D
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Post Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:58 pm

Its waaaaay too quiet. Its quieter at tick over than my 325! 8O
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Post Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:00 pm

oze30 wrote:Its waaaaay too quiet. Its quieter at tick over than my 325! 8O
Bit like you and me then mate your a gobby bastardo and i'm a possom :cry:
Noise is for Saxo 1 litre charriots not mine :D
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Post Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:17 pm

Top job fella 8) Didn't need the extra pair of hands then? Gutted, I even broke out the welder earlier on, just in case!
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Post Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:26 pm

fugazi33 wrote:Top job fella 8) Didn't need the extra pair of hands then? Gutted, I even broke out the welder earlier on, just in case!
Still need the welder for about 20 mins mate so don't see this an excuse to wimp out of tomorrow :)
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Post Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:33 pm

Whoops, when I say I broke out the welder, I meant I broke the welder, the gas pessure regulator in fact :cry: What do you want welding, It will weld with no gas but it aint pretty :mad:
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Post Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:51 pm

fugazi33 wrote:Whoops, when I say I broke out the welder, I meant I broke the welder, the gas pessure regulator in fact :cry: What do you want welding, It will weld with no gas but it aint pretty :mad:
Actually thinking about it I'm sure I have one of those little gas bottles knocking about in the garage so we're sorted 8)
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Post Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:55 pm

fugazi33 wrote:Whoops, when I say I broke out the welder, I meant I broke the welder, the gas pessure regulator in fact :cry: What do you want welding, It will weld with no gas but it aint pretty :mad:
Don't bother than mate unless you have gas as i would be better off super glueing it without :) Just need to weld-up a couple of bits of the exhaust where the sleeved bits are as its better than clamping.
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Post Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:06 am

Good work Spadge! :D

I bet there's going to be some ripped tarmac round your way soon! winkeye
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Post Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:47 am

DRIFTBOY wrote:Good work Spadge! :D

I bet there's going to be some ripped tarmac round your way soon! winkeye
Cheers mate!
With the small case 1:4 diff still in place it may be short lived though :D
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Post Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:20 pm

7 miles today without any issues :P
Goes well especialy with the 4.17 diff :mad:
Nothing else to say except HUGE thanks to fugazi33 for his welding skills and help in general in the cold today :D
Couple of pics taken in the near dark so shit but better than nothing lol :D

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Post Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:24 pm

That looks like a really tidy installation, will be well chuffed if I can get mine like that.

Nice work!
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Post Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:31 pm

Nice and neat Spadge,well done mate :cool:

Looks so discreet to,lovin it :cool:
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Post Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:57 pm

Cheers Dude :D Honoured to have helped out on an awesome project :cool:

The car is a true sleeper, looks like a clean E30 Touring, goes like a rocket :mad: Very clean install & attention to detail, done properly, real nice.
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Post Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:08 pm

Theo - I'm sure you will mate! Cheers and good luck with yours :)

eko - Cheers mate just how i like it too 8)

Fugs - Did you deliberatly put that negative terminal on the battery slightly on the pish to annoy me :cry:
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Post Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:14 pm

Might have been off a tad, didn't know if you'd notice, what were we saying about set squares & protractors :mad:
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Post Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:39 pm

Boootiful ,thanks for the pics and the inspiration to finish mine, very tidy looking install

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Post Wed Dec 06, 2006 11:16 pm

Fugsy - I've been out in the wind and rain to re-position it about .3 degree's now :mad:

John - Cheers and i promise some better more detailed pics as soon as poss and i might even clean the engine bay 1st :D
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Post Wed Dec 06, 2006 11:26 pm

Very nice, but your cone air filter is going to be sucking in alot of hot air by the look of it!
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Post Wed Dec 06, 2006 11:46 pm

320iSE wrote:Very nice, but your cone air filter is going to be sucking in alot of hot air by the look of it!
Fantastic! Just what it needs on these cold winter days 8)
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Post Wed Dec 06, 2006 11:48 pm

nice!

thats what we like. :cool:
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Post Wed Dec 06, 2006 11:51 pm

looking good :cool:

it may be worth trying the E34 airbox. my E32 one fits a treat and with some trimming of the headlight cover thingy, the inlet pokes out behind the lights getting some nice cold air. may be a bit quieter too :D nice ali pipe though... cossie leftover?
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Post Thu Dec 07, 2006 12:16 am

gareth wrote:looking good :cool:

it may be worth trying the E34 airbox. my E32 one fits a treat and with some trimming of the headlight cover thingy, the inlet pokes out behind the lights getting some nice cold air. may be a bit quieter too :D nice ali pipe though... cossie leftover?
Gareth if running a standard airbox as opposed to my little k+n makes any significant difference to this 'out of the box' lazy old 3.5 litre straight six i'll eat my hat :) If it were a finely tuned 10k revving race engine where every single fraction of a horsepower was needed then it may make a little difference but i suspect just using one brand of fuel over another or me putting on 6lbs over christmas will make more :P
The air filter currently on there and the ally pipe were pillaged from an E34 m30 i had recently and is on there now as it was easier to fit so i could take the car for a run although i do have a standard air box should i decided to fit it.
Another option i am still chewing over is a bloody great big hole in the bonnet with the cone in its 'summer position' poking through said hole or just leaving the bonnet off completely as i suspect this may help intake temps :wink:
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Post Thu Dec 07, 2006 12:22 am

:D

the bonnets can easily be tipped up at the rear for cooling underbonnet temps down

re the intake temp issue, i reckon it makes more difference on a rolling road as the heat really builds up. on the road i suspect the difference is a lot smaller. i'm just a fussy shit with things like this :D
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Post Thu Dec 07, 2006 12:27 am

gareth wrote::D

the bonnets can easily be tipped up at the rear for cooling underbonnet temps down

re the intake temp issue, i reckon it makes more difference on a rolling road as the heat really builds up. on the road i suspect the difference is a lot smaller. i'm just a fussy shit with things like this :D
Been there and done the argument over cones for years mate with the Cossie massive :D The jury is still out on those and the effects but as i said before for this application i really can't see it making any difference :)
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Post Thu Dec 07, 2006 12:31 am

it does look nice too :D

with turbos the difference is noticable (experience being a mk1 uno turbo). cold air and good fuel makes a bigger difference in this case.

i've not noticed my car running any better on high octane fuel as the compression on a late M30 is so low! i just use the cheap stuff (even up the pod strip!)
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Post Thu Dec 07, 2006 12:35 am

spadge, so it goes well :?:
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Post Thu Dec 07, 2006 12:37 am

gareth wrote:it does look nice too :D

with turbos the difference is noticable (experience being a mk1 uno turbo). cold air and good fuel makes a bigger difference in this case.

i've not noticed my car running any better on high octane fuel as the compression on a late M30 is so low! i just use the cheap stuff (even up the pod strip!)
I actually told fugazzi33 earlier when he was at my place that i wouldn't be long before someone commented on my filter :D
I'm more interested in sorting the washer bottle and a headlight bulb right now mate as they are needed. I'll have a see if i like the airbox in there if not that cone will be going anyway as i have one about 3 times that size in the shed and plenty of ducting to give it a chill :wink:
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Post Thu Dec 07, 2006 12:39 am

mattG wrote:spadge, so it goes well :?:
I was pleasantly surprised to be honest mate yes :D
It didn't scare me or even come close but the term 'mildly moist' would be appropriate :)
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