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would it be better to go direct port (drilling manifold and fitting 6 jets)
or fit a single jet into the inlet hose

+ the fuel jets

also how much would a std engine take?
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Sat Dec 02, 2006 8:07 pm

Direct port is always better, but a single jet can be used if your keeping the power increase small.

How much power were you thinking?
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on a std engine, 100bhp shot is a safe level...
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the above obviously depends on the condition of the engine etc,
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im only after a max of 50bhp shot!

the engines in rather good condition, just had a full service,
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how long does a bottle last? obviously it depends on how often you use it but how long would you get from a bottle time wise of actual use?im undecided on this stuff as ive heard lots of good and bad stories :?
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I'm with Fuzzy on this. I would love to install a kit on both my cars but scared i'm might lose them. Can anyone actually assure me that NOS is all gravy?


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Sat Dec 02, 2006 8:32 pm

BIGJO wrote:I'm with Fuzzy on this. I would love to install a kit on both my cars but scared i'm might lose them. Can anyone actually assure me that NOS is all gravy?


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i think it all comes down to how competant the installers are,you pay your money you take the chance.i dont think i would ever fit it to mine though,im just curious.
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used mine for 2yrs with no issues, its all down to installation on this.... also as its now road legal its safer too.
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installation is quite easy its the jet sizes that are critical,i've seen an engine go bang in about 5miles that was too lean on the fuel side :eek:
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There's no real point in using NOS with N/A cars is there? Just seems to work really well with turbo's......


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There's no real point in using NOS with N/A cars is there? Just seems to work really well with turbo's......
on the contrary my good man, a lot of people in my drag racing fraternity including me, that have built there engines solely to run with nitrous, plus a lot of people use nitrous with turbos as a means of simply reducing intake temp and detonation. nitrous is awesome on a normally aspirated engine when it is set up properly
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toughyv8 wrote:
There's no real point in using NOS with N/A cars is there? Just seems to work really well with turbo's......
on the contrary my good man, a lot of people in my drag racing fraternity including me, that have built there engines solely to run with nitrous, plus a lot of people use nitrous with turbos as a means of simply reducing intake temp and detonation. nitrous is awesome on a normally aspirated engine when it is set up properly

Who can set up NOS effectively? How much does a decent kit cost? Would love to have it set up one my Sport but scared about losing the motor.............


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As said before, a poorly setup NoS system will cause the damage.....

I have come across some "NoS Experts" who have never heard about NoS/Fuel delay.
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Good Forum over here http://www.noswizard.com
Im going to be throwing about 400bhp down the throat of mine when Ive finished the build....but then again the engine is 8.2 litres :mad:
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kam-325i wrote:As said before, a poorly setup NoS system will cause the damage.....

I have come across some "NoS Experts" who have never heard about NoS/Fuel delay.
Are these Nos Experts any good fella?


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@ Bigjo,

PM exup, he's got atleast two motors on Nitrous now and know's his stuff! ( all bmw too :D )

HTH, Mark.
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BIGJO wrote:
kam-325i wrote:As said before, a poorly setup NoS system will cause the damage.....

I have come across some "NoS Experts" who have never heard about NoS/Fuel delay.
Are these Nos Experts any good fella?


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Yeah...they were great.......at f**king up engines !!!
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Wizard of Nos site is good for all Nos related stuff + i rate solenoids over NOS stuff

single kits are good for small hit 50 MAY BE 75 , , but will not give even mixture into each cylinder, ie some run rich others lean , lean can do BIG ENGINE DAMAGE (ideally u want to retard the timing too)

INSTALLED AND SET UP CORRECTLY ITS GREAT :D

6 PORT KITS IF INSTALLED AND SET UP WELL will give correct mixture to each cylinder and has big bhp scope for future but for big hits u need to retard the timing 2 to 6 deg dependant on hit and use progessive controllers etc to be safe , ring lands on pistons are normally the weekest link an bend down traping rings and then Blown eng results :x
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gotta look at it this way, if the engine does go bang isnt it the best excuse to tell the missus you need a bigger engine installing and all get 2.7-3.5 projects on the go lol? you can always take you kit off and have it set up correctly this time on the new engine.
or do i just have a badly nagging missus?
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Yep or " you can always take your kit off and swop it to your next car ,

its just like turboing , we try it like , want a little more , then some more :mad:

then WE really get greddy winkeye

BANG new engine r TIME AND BLAIM THE NOS AKIT :cry: always
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BIGJO wrote:There's no real point in using NOS with N/A cars is there? Just seems to work really well with turbo's......


Regards, BJ.
check this vid out ,its me and my mate in his MK2 golf its only an 8valve 1,8 but has a cam, exhaust system,and vernier pulley thats about it as far as engine mods go. its an E reg BUT it has 50hp nitrous which we used mainly coming out of the corners and we were giving the M3 some seriuos shit and he was trying cause i saw him locking up going into the corners ,dont forget this is an old motor that has'nt had a lot done to it really


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Impressive!

But where did that Mk2 Escort go ! ? 8O
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i dont know but he wasted me on the straights as well :(
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Yep ,
do nt u just love wiping more exspensive stuff , Nos is ideal for that out the bends etc shot , but never hit mine with out at least 3000 rpm as i ve blown a few doing it sooner :cry:
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you can set your activation switch where you want it really but on that golf its at about 75% throttle
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One of my systems is on a emerald M3D system its got progressive controll built in , but isstill on wot, with a throttlle rpm setting now ,
the other a dry sytem with a BTC black box settable to rpm and gear position :mad:
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exup wrote:One of my systems is on a emerald M3D system its got progressive controll built in , but isstill on wot, with a throttlle rpm setting now ,
the other a dry sytem with a BTC black box settable to rpm and gear position :mad:
thats the way to go ,50 odd hp is a lot for any clutch to handle in one whack 8O
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the mk2 escrot was running a 250 bhp vauxhall XE engine

if looking for a nitrous kit only get WON kits from trevor at wizards (doncaster) and visit his site for help.

providing you use a controlled sysyem a bottle heater and make sure you fuel pump and ign components are spot on you will have no problems. Set the car up on 25bhp jets drop 1 cooler on your plug heat range for a 50hp increase 2 for more and away you go :-)

1/2 engine hp is always safe on the nitrous increase. my mk2 is running 75hp N and 50hp fuel uncontrolled it kicks ass. wen my controller arrives my 75bhp jets are going in.
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. wen my controller arrives my 75bhp jets are going in.[/quote]


you'll need them to catch that C1 :D :D :D
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good vid that!
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your all talk BIGKEV he he he you know i killed your car down start finnish off gas :D
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