H&R Cup kit for E30 318iS.

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Wed Oct 11, 2006 9:46 am

any opinions as i want to uprate my shocks, are thease better than mtechs? allso would it be much different if i just bought springs and kept my original shocks as this would be allot cheaper lol,
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Wed Oct 11, 2006 12:45 pm

id like to know this too!!!
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Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:51 pm

Always best to get springs and shocks that have been designed to be paired up, buying kits is always the safer option for this.

Quite a few on here have said the cup kit is really good but has a specific drop (i think 60/40 and 40/40 are your options).

Personally I didnt want to go that far so I opted for Bilstein shocks and H&R springs to get 35mm all round.

very happy with mine but it is quite firm and I think the cup kit is a little (but not much) softer.

When you ask better than m-tech I guess you mean what you got now vs this, well if it original then they'll be quite knackered anyway so Yes, the Kit will be better but replacing new for old can still make a massive difference to the car.
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Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:50 pm

H+R shocks and springs 35mm drop is very good with arb's the car will handle better than a good condition mtec.
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Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:59 pm

As a new iS owner, i'll keep my eye on this!

TBH I'm still getting used to the grip of the mtech setup :cool:
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Thu Oct 12, 2006 12:01 am

Just fitted 60/40 H&R cup kit to my iS. So far so good but need to do rear top mounts but all seems very nice a tight over bumps. I'll let you know how it goes when ive done them mounts........
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Sat Oct 14, 2006 9:21 pm

Cool, let me know how the 60/40 kit handles too please. Heard dodgy things but really wanna do it in future.
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who ever said dodgy things about the cup kit would be on crack its one of the best mods ive done to my m tech 1 325i sport its simply awsome when set up with the right car with good bushes , uprated other bits etc my car handles like no other 325i ive driven or owned so id say it was a good setup im on the 60-40 mm drop all round with the full cup kit.
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Sun Oct 15, 2006 12:37 am

Fitted e46 cab top mounts now, and can totally recomend the cup kit. Ride is nice and firm, well controlled without slammin over bumps and potholes etc. well worth the dollar!!
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Sun Oct 15, 2006 7:24 am

The ride height on a vehicle is worked out to the relative geometry of the suspension components. Therefore standard ride height is on a well designed car the most optimal height for handling. Lowering your car moves the centre of gravity changing the geometry. Therefore to keep the best handling u want standard ride height and perhaps harder shocks. to get a lowered apearance go for a bodykit.

These are what the suspension specialist for V8 Supercar Holden Racing Team told me when i asked him about lowering my car. I have M-tech springs which are in brand new condition and bilstein B6's and the handling is extremely good.
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Sun Oct 15, 2006 11:24 am

Interesting. Lowering the centre of gravity will certainly help the handling in some ways, I would have thought. What geometry issues would there be with lowering a car? Does it affect the steering or something? Which are the B6s? I'm now completely confused about the different Bilstein shocks :o:

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Sun Oct 15, 2006 1:19 pm

WerkdE30 wrote:The ride height on a vehicle is worked out to the relative geometry of the suspension components. Therefore standard ride height is on a well designed car the most optimal height for handling. Lowering your car moves the centre of gravity changing the geometry. Therefore to keep the best handling u want standard ride height and perhaps harder shocks. to get a lowered apearance go for a bodykit.

These are what the suspension specialist for V8 Supercar Holden Racing Team told me when i asked him about lowering my car. I have M-tech springs which are in brand new condition and bilstein B6's and the handling is extremely good.
I have yet to see an Mtec setup car come close to one with a H&R Cup Kit.

The guys you spoke to may well be speaking in general terms.

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