Anyone got a gen rear subframe bush to hand?

[TouringMatt]

Just had some delivered and was assured they were from OE suppliers, but they have no BMW stamp on them and tbh look a bit cheap

Rest of the parts either came in BMW approved or Febi marked packaging, the bushes were just loose in a box

There is one marking that looks like a triangle with a hoop in it and a code that reads 202901

If someone could compare it to a gen one that would be a big help

Cheers
Matt

[ed325i]

Where did you buy them ? They will only have bmw on them if you got the from a dealer.

[TouringMatt]

MotorMec. Service received was fantastic, just expected the bushes to be marked somewhere

[stuartgallafant]

then they wont be BMW bushes mate! as Ed said, you can only get approved products from dealers

[DanThe]

As Ed said, you can only get approved products from dealers

I got a cam cover gasket set from a motor parts store, about Ԛ£5 cheaper than the dealers and all the gaskets had the BMW logo stamped on them. They wernt in BMW packaging though.

A few years ago I got some E36 rear beam bushes from Euro that had the stamp on them, but now they have the triangle as mentioned

[smithy318i]

the triangular stamp is probably the paulstra logo

does it look anything like this?...

[Demlotcrew]

As Ed said, you can only get approved products from dealers

I got a cam cover gasket set from a motor parts store, about Ԛ£5 cheaper than the dealers and all the gaskets had the BMW logo stamped on them. They wernt in BMW packaging though.

A few years ago I got some E36 rear beam bushes from Euro that had the stamp on them, but now they have the triangle as mentioned

So they still wont be approved.

Andrew

[TouringMatt]

Thanks for the replys guys, attached some pictures of the bushes. Id appreciate your opinions on using them please, lot of work to replace them if they are going to be in a shite state after a short time

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Cheers,
Matt

[ed325i]

Here you go a pic of a gen one . The one you have does look cheap but its been a long time since I fitted a gen one I only use poly ones now.

[DanThe]

As Ed said, you can only get approved products from dealers

I got a cam cover gasket set from a motor parts store, about Ԛ£5 cheaper than the dealers and all the gaskets had the BMW logo stamped on them. They wernt in BMW packaging though.

A few years ago I got some E36 rear beam bushes from Euro that had the stamp on them, but now they have the triangle as mentioned

So they still wont be approved.

Andrew

The gaskets wont be approved? Maybe not but at the end of the day a BMW stamp is a BMW stamp

[ed325i]

The gaskets wont be approved? Maybe not but at the end of the day a BMW stamp is a BMW stamp

Anyone can write/stamp bmw on a part.

[TouringMatt]

Well im off to BMW tomorrow to take a look at what they have. Not convinced by what i've got - no room for poor quality on this job

[GDBN]

I've got a Febi Bilstein in the shed .... want a picture??

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[DanThe]

The gaskets wont be approved? Maybe not but at the end of the day a BMW stamp is a BMW stamp

Anyone can write/stamp bmw on a part.

Well it wasnt in biro if thats what you mean

[gareth]

bmw don't make their own bushes (afaik), they get them from febi/bilsten. often febi/bilsten parts from gsf come in bmw boxes with bmw part numbers on.

why the snobbery? gsf can generally supply parts direct from the oem manufacturer for less than if bmw make their mark-up on it too. they usually have a note on the system stating if the bits are real oem or pattern and the quality of the parts if they are patterns.

they're Ԛ£8.95 from gsf but would need a call to check the manufacturer.

[DaveD]

just to point out that i bought a hood motor from eurcarparts ...in a bmw box with bmw wrapping and the correct markings...is this not an approved part because it didn't come from a dealer?

[DanThe]

just to point out that i bought a hood motor from eurcarparts ...in a bmw box with bmw wrapping and the correct markings...is this not an approved part because it didn't come from a dealer?

Not because it didnt come from the dealer but more importantly because you didnt pay enough for it

[DaveD]

Not because it didnt come from the dealer but more importantly because you didnt pay enough for it

Now that reply took some thinking of

[TouringMatt]

I've got a Febi Bilstein in the shed .... want a picture??

Yes please, it'd be a big help never made it to BMW in the end.

Spent an hour under the car today spaying plusgas on all the bolts in preparation for the subframe removal - cant wait to get stuck in

Matt

[GDBN]

Here you go mate ....








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[ed325i]

I dont see the point in fitting rubber bushes they dont last long and are a pain to replace. poly ones are easy to fit and last longer and if they ever do need replacing they will come back out easy.

[TouringMatt]

Here you go mate ....

Nice one G, appreciated

As easy as the poly-bush route would be, i'll give the standard bushes a try first. Im making the removal/fitting tool to suit so i'll design it to allow the bushes to be removed with the rear beam in situ, should i need to do it again.

Matt

[pacerpete]

[ed325i]

Im making the removal/fitting tool to suit so i'll design it to allow the bushes to be removed with the rear beam in situ, should i need to do it again.

Make it better than the BMW one its crap.

[GDBN]

No worries Matt,
Sorry for the delay ....

G

[gareth]

I dont see the point in fitting rubber bushes they dont last long and are a pain to replace. poly ones are easy to fit and last longer and if they ever do need replacing they will come back out easy.

to be fair, the beam bushes do last hundreds of thousands of miles. i have no long term idea on the life of poly bushes though most are nowhere near this milage.

that said, i'm replacing mine for poly as i'd thather have tighter handling!

[ed325i]

The 323 I have has done 75k and needs new bushes and when I worked for BMW 2 year old cars needed the bushes replaced. Poly ones will out last the rubber ones.

[gareth]

that's shocking! a definate waekness on an otherwise solid manufacturers range!

how do other bushes fare? (wishbone, trailing arm etc)