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Post Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:28 am

am interested.......why? :cool:
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Post Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:34 am

Cos they sound better than 4 pots

Inline 4pot engines are inherantly rough, inline 6 engines are inherantly smooth

You get more torque for a given capacity from the average 6pot

They're smoother in traffic.......

Did I mention they sound great? :)
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Post Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:24 am

4cyls are for pussies[bar the m3] 6cyls are for real drivers there is no comparison the difference is night and day
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Post Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:26 am

as said before - the sound they make is enough to validate it. there are other reasons but i dont need to go into them.
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Post Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:28 am

4cyls are for revvy drivers who are about 18 and ragg the shite out of them.
Bar the M power engine which are race spec designed and god damm beautiful when you hear a good one.
6 cylinders are for touring and occasionaly going past something with no effot and grace
its like the question why go V8 for power and the noise !!!
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Post Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:10 am

michealewk wrote:4cyls are for pussies[bar the m3] 6cyls are for real drivers there is no comparison the difference is night and day
Thanks for offending all us 4 pot owners, nice one. :roll: :roll: :roll:

I seem to be a freak around here but for me handling/cornering is more important than power, I just don't see a 6 pot keeping up with me around the twisties. I have a 318is and I've driven my mates 325i Sport (admitedly with tired suspension,) and the difference on the corners "is night and day!"

Ultimately it all depends on what your after at the end of the day. I concede that for the vast majority of people the 6 pot is a better choice. I prefer my cornering and my fuel economy to go with it.
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Post Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:23 am

Becuase the noise of a 6 pot is wicked :cool:
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Post Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:43 am

michealewk: I just noticed your a new member. Tip: it's best not to insult half the forum :wink:
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Post Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:49 am

My car used to be a 1.6, and understeered like a bitch, now I have a big heavy 6 pot, it doesn't front slide so much, so I would say the handling is better...
Although you do notice the extra weight, and when I first drove it, it felt like there was so much weight it wouldn't go round the corner!
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Post Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:50 am

michealewk: I just noticed your a new member. Tip: it's best not to insult half the forum
Well he's wrong anyway. I stand by my statement last time this subject came up (must be all of a couple of days ago):

'16v 4-pots are great in race cars, or if you want to drive like you're in a race the whole time. Otherwise 6's are the way forward'

I don't drive my car to the limits of its cornering ability on the road (& I'd question the sanity of those who do), but if that's what you want, then a 4-pot makes sense. So, far from being for 'pussies', I'd say an iS is ideal for nutters!
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Post Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:20 pm

So, far from being for 'pussies', I'd say an iS is ideal for nutters!
too bloody right...! :thumb:
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Post Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:43 pm

My first E30 was my 325i Sport - I had to have a 6pot just for the noise.

I recently was looking for another E30 and started looking at the 318iS. There just wasnt any worth buying - they were all rusty, rough as hell and well over priced.

I bought a 318i touring - it was cheap and 4pot so wouldnt cost the earth to run (or so I thought) but within a month I had fitted the 2.5 6cyl from my Sport (not actually through choice though).

If I wanted something that goes round corners like a go-cart, I would have bought a go-cart.

Its all down to what you want - each car has its merits, but theres no real reason to buy one or the other, just personal preference.
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Post Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:56 pm

4pot, 6pot!! They are all for Toe tickling Gay's :D The only way forward is V8 or V12, or some sort of twin turbo set-up. I guess that makes me Gay too, but i dont care :D Give me more power :twisted: :mad:
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Post Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:57 pm

bootyman wrote:4pot, 6pot!! They are all for Toe tickling Gay's :D The only way forward is V8 or V12, or some sort of twin turbo set-up. I guess that makes me Gay too, but i dont care :D Give me more power :twisted: :mad:
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Post Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:04 pm

What you mean they do pimp mobils in v8 and v12 as well :cool:
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Post Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:21 pm

Yeah but you're ride aint Pimp Mr P and i'm a broke Arse Broder so lets not even go there :D
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Post Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:23 pm

why 6 pot?

noise, power, smoothness
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Post Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:30 pm

why 6 pot?

noise, power, smoothness
BMW never made a decent engine for the E30. Even the M engine is not all that. They only started making decent engines with power to be proud off from the M E36 onwards. Back then i guess they were fantastic, but now in the moddern day, they are dated and way too under powered and most modern crap cars like Saxo's and the likes would leave you standing at the lights :D Hell i use to have a R5 GT turbo with 240bhp. That's in a car small enough to fit in a cornflakes box.

I guess if you're just talking from the draivability side being smooth then cool, but i certainly dont rate the power of the E30 :(
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Post Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:38 pm

The 2.5 M20 ain't a bad engine, even by today's standards! Makes more power/litre than the VR6 motors :D
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Post Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:39 pm

I heard they made they first designed the E30 they stuck a 6 pot in there (323) but someone said (in German accent) ''Vat about mine vife? vat vill she drife? so they invented a 4 pot E30 winkeye

and ive been around the zone enough to insult,

and i have a V8 , 5.9 Magnum baby 8O oh yeah!! (best said in Duff man voice)

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Post Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:43 pm

I heard they made they first designed the E30 they stuck a 6 pot in there (323) but someone said (in German accent) ''Vat about mine vife? vat vill she drife? so they invented a 4 pot E30

and ive been around the zone enough to insult,

and i have a V8 , 5.9 Magnum baby oh yeah!! (best said in Duff man voice)

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Post Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:43 pm

No disrespect to the S14 but the bimmer sixes have a sense of occasison way beyond that of almost any 4pot (even in comparatively torque-light 2.0 M20 guise.). the older ones aren't the last word in power but they are modre than respectable, especially in an E30. Be honest, would you rather have a FWD bit of tat with a personailty-free four banger or a mans car? 8)

As has been mentioned, any arguments for or against are academic as personal preference is the only criterion.
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Post Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:45 pm

Go back to your hubbly bubbly bro

yeah yeah!! :mad:

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Post Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:47 pm

I had a 4pot 318 cab a few months ago and whilst i didn't think it was partuicularly fast or powerful, it drove quiet nice and that did suprise me. I sold the car a few weeks after buying it to buy the Msport. Not cause the car was bad, but cause it was better for me to spend my money modding a Msport as oppose to a 318cab :wink:
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Post Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:49 pm

Dont worry Mr Lee. I'm sending the rims back to Image to have the width reduced bu half an inch. I can run 245/35/17's then, but thanks anyway mate :wink:
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Post Wed Sep 20, 2006 2:01 pm

he he he never heard anyone complain about something being too wide before winkeye

I will call off the search!

(sorry for thread hijack!!)

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Post Wed Sep 20, 2006 2:04 pm

Well it's a problem if you cant find rubber to fit you winkeye I'd rather loose a little girth so i can slam the bitch. It might also make my 6pot a bit faster :wink:
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Post Wed Sep 20, 2006 3:34 pm

spot on answer mate!

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Post Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:44 pm

Jhonno wrote:why 6 pot?

noise, power, smoothness
exacty :cool:
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Post Wed Sep 20, 2006 6:02 pm

Booty why is'nt the S14 a good engine?

A reliable 93hp per litre is good today how about 15-20 years ago.
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Post Wed Sep 20, 2006 6:10 pm

6pots are just :cool:

sound smoothness and ability to run without sounding like you left all your change in ya jeans and chucked em in the wash :wink:
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Post Wed Sep 20, 2006 6:19 pm

Hi I think we have had 4pot owners slagged off before,
the site is E30 Zone remember E30 ZONE.
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Post Wed Sep 20, 2006 7:11 pm

bootyman wrote:I had a 4pot 318 cab a few months ago and whilst i didn't think it was partuicularly fast or powerful, it drove quiet nice and that did suprise me.
Yeah, I should of said that I was more than happy with how the touring drove, before the little 4pot went bang that is :cry:

There was nothing wrong with it all and it suited my needs just fine. Was a little thirsty if pushed hard, but then its not an engine to push hard. It would still be a 4pot today if I could be arsed to fix it - it was just easier to fit the 6pot :roll:
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Post Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:41 pm

I have 6 pots because I find them easyer to work on.