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Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:28 pm

Too wide? I got a 550mm wide (i think) rad in my bay, I didnt use it though
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Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:31 pm

I would of thought you should be able to fit the rad. The E36 M3 rad fits and thats wide.

Just thought, does it have the tank on the side of the rad?
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Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:33 pm

jmc330i wrote: Just thought, does it have the tank on the side of the rad?
Yes
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Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:35 pm

That could be why it doesnt fit.

Whats the total width then?
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Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:38 pm

Whats the total width then?
Not sure,ill measure it tomorrow!
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Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:13 pm

More progress today :D

Got the M50 out,bit of a mission but got there in the end :mad:
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Then stripped of the air con pump and bracket and engine mountings and gave the whole thing a good clean up and put the new mountings on
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Tomorrow ill fit the new servo and mounting rubbers and maybe get the engine sat in the engine bay winkeye (thats the plan anyway)

Can someone confirm(Dan winkeye );

That ive bolted the new mounting arms in the right position?
Also is it best to remove the now redundant air con pulley?
Can i go ahead and put the engine in place BEFORE doing any work to the M52 manifolds(which arrived today by the way :) ),will i be able to get them in and out with the engine in?

Pic of the M52 manifolds
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Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:25 pm

The drivers side mount is upside down mate :wink:
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Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:28 pm

DanThe wrote:The drivers side mount is upside down mate :wink:
:chuckle: bollocks for it looked odd! :hammer:
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Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:32 pm

I would take that aircon pulley off, it will give you some more room if nothing else 8)
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Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:34 pm

You may as well leave the aircon pulley on the front, it wont do any harm - I keep looking at mine and thinking it could run a 'charger 8O winkeye

You will need the engine in place to do the manifolds, you wont be able to get them fitting right if youre doing it by eye. And that way you can trial fit them before you weld them up for good.

And the mount..... :mad: :D
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Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:39 pm

And the mount.....
I know,i know :oops:

One more thing,does it matter where in the exhaust the lambda sensor goes,ie front/middle or back?
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Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:41 pm

jmc330i wrote:I keep looking at mine and thinking it could run a 'charger 8O winkeye
So im not the only one then :wink:
I think thats the only reason I havnt fitted my air-con yet,
As soon as I saw the bolt pattern on that compressor bracket my thoughts were tainted winkeye
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Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:54 pm

eko wrote:One more thing,does it matter where in the exhaust the lambda sensor goes,ie front/middle or back?
As close to the original position as possible, but anywhere in the downpipes should be ok. The Lambda needs to get up to temp to work properly.
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jmc330i wrote:I keep looking at mine and thinking it could run a 'charger 8O winkeye
So im not the only one then :wink:
I think thats the only reason I havnt fitted my air-con yet,
As soon as I saw the bolt pattern on that compressor bracket my thoughts were tainted winkeye
:lol:
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Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:56 pm

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Fri Sep 08, 2006 9:22 pm

ur mking this look like a easy transitiion!
Directed CompX's 12"... 2off. 1000 watts RMS, dual 2ohm VC. 90£ each!!
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Fri Sep 08, 2006 9:58 pm

ur mking this look like a easy transitiion!
Dont think the hard work has even begaun yet :roll:
Test of patience getting the M50 out today too!

Going to see if i can buy some nice stainless steel tubing tomorrow,thinking about 3 inch single bore!
Plan in my mind right now is to run both down pipes into single 3in then running into twin exit Scorpion backbox ive just bought for Ԛ£25 winkeye

All Tig welded to the highest standard winkeye

Not sure how loud it will be yet but if its that bad ill put another box in the middle somewhere!
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Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:20 pm

eko wrote:Not sure how loud it will be
Very winkeye
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Fri Sep 08, 2006 11:01 pm

Trial and error-ill deal with the excess noise as and when!
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Sat Sep 09, 2006 8:11 pm

ITS IN :D

Started of the day by going to local scrap yard and picking some stainless for my exhaust!
Opted for 70mm(2 3/4in) top notch 316 dairy pipe,my mate is going to fabricate it next weekend,his standard of TIG welding is amazing so should be pukka when done
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Then made a start getting the engine in,bit awkward getting it lined up for the mountings but still not as bad as i thought it was going to be
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Well happy now,starting to see some real progress :D
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Sat Sep 09, 2006 11:21 pm

Can someone(Dan :wink: ) tell me which gearbox mounting to use?
E30 fit or do i have to fabricate my own?
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Sun Sep 10, 2006 12:11 am

The E30 goes straight on, I used some E21 rubbers to keep things a bit more solid
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Sun Sep 10, 2006 12:19 am

DanThe wrote:The E30 goes straight on, I used some E21 rubbers to keep things a bit more solid
Dan that does apply to the M50 gearbox yes?
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Sun Sep 10, 2006 12:40 am

Bloomin heck! You dont hang around mate do you.lol


Nice. Looks like its coming along great.
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Sun Sep 10, 2006 7:58 am

well done eko mate its coming along well quick mate, looking good dude 8)
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Saying goodbye to 4-pot wrongness
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Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:00 pm

More progress today :D

Got loads done today

Fitted gearbox mount,throttle cable,power steering pipes and bottle mounted,heater matrix plumbed in,clutch bled and more i cant think of.

Main jobs to do know to at least get it running are

Prop
exhaust
radiator
elec fan
air box?
gear linkage

and last but definately not least wire the M50 to the M20,but think ill put a seperate post up for advice on this!

Overall though im happy with the way its going,not really hit any major obstacles as yet,but then again its only the electrics that give me the jitters-hopefully Danthe or Brianmoore will be my saviours here!

Need to make another trip to the scrapyard now,pick up a leccy fan and maybe radiator if they have a good one :)
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Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:52 pm

Its all going well then 8)

Did you notice which size of output flange you have on the gearbox?
If your planning on using an M30 airbox id advise you use an M20 radiator, the tank on the side of other rads gets in the way of the airbox intake.
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Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:24 pm

DanThe wrote:Its all going well then 8)

Did you notice which size of output flange you have on the gearbox?
If your planning on using an M30 airbox id advise you use an M20 radiator, the tank on the side of other rads gets in the way of the airbox intake.
Output flange is the bigger one!

Going to try a E30 325i rad for now!
Not sure about the M30 airbox,not even thought that far ahead yet :mad:
Although looking today there is a sensor? which fits in the original M50 box,2 pipes and elec connector on-what do i do with this?
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Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:36 pm

Whats the measurement accross the bolt hole centres of the rubber? I need to check one and I cant remember the large diameter.

Cut the plug out and replace with a 64 Ohm resistor to trick the ECU into thinking the valve is still there. (Brianmoooore takes credit for this plan)
Then just cap off the hole thats left in the throttle body
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Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:00 am

Dan ill measure the hole distance tomorrow sometime!

Hole in the TB?
I am on about the valve that goes into the airbox,would i be best just leaving it on?
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Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:13 am

This is the only electrical connection I can think of in that area

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do ... g=13&fg=15

The plug is on the same part of the loom extansion as the MAF plug

HTH
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Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:19 am

thats the one Dan!

If i use say an M30 airbox or maybe induction filter,what do i do with it?
Do i just relocate it into the new box/filter?
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Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:29 am

If you wanted you could just leave the valve wired up and tie it out of the way somewhere. See above for the proper job winkeye
Theres no point in transfering the carbon canister over mate
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Went to the scrapyard today and picked up a new looking M20 radiator and a nice electric fan!
The fan came of a Mitsy Galant 24v and has got loads of kick in it winkeye
Easy to mount it too,as it sits in there perfectly,just secured it to the front crossmember by a couple of self tapping bolts and made a little L shaped bracket to fix it under the front panel!

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Mounted the radiator too but need to get the bottom mounts for it cause i forgot to pick them up :mad:
but it is plumbed in using the original O/S inner wing mounted expansion tank!

Ordered the E36 gear linkage parts from the dealers aswell,should be in on Wednesday :)
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Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:23 am

Looking good. winkeye
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