A modern 330D engine in a E30?.

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Post Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:44 pm

I was wondering is this is possible?. I suppose anything is possible.

Starting point 324td?.

Now this is a engine conversion, I would like to see.
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Post Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:54 pm

i have lost many a nights sleep pondering the same thing, if only i had the space and the cash to take on such a project
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Post Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:56 pm

i have also had a few thoughts on this one

gotta be a conversion for glenn surely winkeye
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Post Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:55 pm

i've thought about this too!! after driving them, i think they're f*cking outstanding!!!!
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Post Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:01 am

Alot of people have mentioned this but no one has got the money to do it
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Post Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:03 am

its probably coz you'd ave to buy £20'000 worth of car, then out it into an E30, and have a hell of a job with all the control units!!! not fun... or cheap!!!
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Post Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:03 am

It may happen one day :roll:
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Post Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:05 am

maxfield wrote:It may happen one day :roll:
and if it does get done it would spank your dads M3 all the way from mansfeild to sunny spain!! winkeye
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Post Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:09 am

All that tourqe 8) :twisted: and in a an E30 :mad: would be one hell of a convertion. wouldn't want to atempt the electrics though :?
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Post Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:16 am

mmm, just thinking about it

230bhp, 500Nm of tourque, and thats without a remap :twisted:
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Post Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:17 am

Kos wrote:
maxfield wrote:It may happen one day :roll:
and if it does get done it would spank your dads M3 all the way from mansfeild to sunny spain!! winkeye
I know :cry:

But thats going to be along time yet :D
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Post Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:32 pm

but there are plenty other e30's which will be quicker at the mo !!
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Post Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:34 pm

I know but the M3 was never built for straight line speed :wink:
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Post Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:35 pm

who siad anything about straight line speed !! winkeye
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Post Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:36 pm

I just assumed :)
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Post Fri Aug 18, 2006 2:53 pm

anything possible if you got enough money to throw at it, interesting conversion though 8)
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Post Fri Aug 18, 2006 9:51 pm

3.0ltr diesel from the E46?

Its been done. One was in my area in an E30 M3 shell, not sure how well it was done but hell did it go 8O
There have been a couple on Ebay as well.

Ive thought about it for the touring and then keep the Sport for the weekends. But would the 330D out perform the S50 powered E30? :?
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Post Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:48 pm

the e90 engine is better than the one in the e46,

e46 = 204bhp 410Nm
e90 = 230bhp 500Nm

should be very cool :cool:
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Post Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:52 pm

what about the old 6 pot shitter out of the 325tds (E36)
more readily available and from Omega taxis i've been in with these engines there's a reasonable amount of shove. I've driven an X5 diesel and they are lively for an oil burner, had 130 out of the X5 without any complaints
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Post Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:57 pm

i think the x5 3.0d engine is the same as found in the later (possibly earlier) e46, good engine, they go well, been in one many a time, supposied to be wicked with a live remap according to c76 jon who had botht the x5 and the e46
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Post Sat Aug 19, 2006 12:25 am

stuartgallafant wrote:its probably coz you'd ave to buy £20'000 worth of car, then out it into an E30, and have a hell of a job with all the control units!!! not fun... or cheap!!!

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Post Sat Aug 19, 2006 12:35 am

man i wish i had the cash right now.. :(
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Post Sat Aug 19, 2006 7:58 pm

billgatese30 wrote:the e90 engine is better than the one in the e46,

e46 = 204bhp 410Nm
e90 = 230bhp 500Nm

should be very cool :cool:
Ah, sorry I thought we were talking E46. The new diesel engine should be good :cool:
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Post Sat Aug 19, 2006 9:15 pm

Why not get the engine out of the 535d twin turbo? i believe it's a 3.0 6 cyl with 272bhp and 413lb ft of torque, a nice amount of power, not too much, and lets not forget it can do 0-60 in 6.5s in an the E60, i think you could get 6.0s from an E30, maybe less. 35mpg though, not the best, but still ok.

I bet THAT would be tricky to convert.
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Post Sat Aug 19, 2006 10:48 pm

I reckon you would be into a few grand on the re-loom alone.
It would be good, we have an x5 with the new diesel and it goes extremely well, 265hp and 520Nm is appealing.
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Post Sun Aug 20, 2006 11:27 am

Twin turbo, clever chap, no turbo lag, small turbo spins up big one, clever, clever germans. Would be wicked in an E30.
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Post Sun Aug 20, 2006 12:47 pm

It's nothing new to have twin turbos you know, the Mazda RX7 had these in the mid 90's, and they worked well. I believe VW have made a new Golf GT 1.4 that has a supercharger and turbo, where the s.charger helps spin the turbo up, nice idea huh.
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Post Sun Aug 20, 2006 1:28 pm

Twin turbo setup was long ago mastered by the japs, but most people think the advent of the twin turbo setup with inline 6 engine on a standard production car started with the supra in the mid 90's. Wrong, they had been at it since the mid 80's, but often with cars which never officially came to the UK.

The MK2 Soarer of 1986 vintage had a 2 ltr inline 6 twin turbo setup, plus touch sensitive TV screen providing TV, climate control functions and other.

Back to the twin turbo thing, the earlier configuration was for twin-turbo running in parallel, so they both spool up simultaneously, therefore the usual lag and then wooaaaahhh, the TT supra in MKiv guise had the sequential setup so you got one at low revs and then another almighty shove at around 4K.

The power outputs of the new 3 series with twin-turbo setup is nothing newsworthy as far as I'm concerned
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Post Sun Aug 20, 2006 3:02 pm

but it is a step forward for bmw, last time they made a turbo powered engine was with the 2002tii? (or was it the M745iA for SA?) that was a long time ago, bmw have broken a long standing tradition by producing a turbocharged petrol engine, i wonder what rule they will break next? produce a front wheel drive car maybe? i hope not, it's the bmw traits that make it stand out for me, they have golden rules, another being the 50/50 weight distribution rule on all cars.
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Post Sun Aug 20, 2006 6:45 pm

maxfield wrote:
Kos wrote:
maxfield wrote:It may happen one day :roll:
and if it does get done it would spank your dads M3 all the way from mansfeild to sunny spain!! winkeye
I know :cry:

But thats going to be along time yet :D
mind you i heard someone put a diesel in an m3 already!

oh wait, thats put diesel in an m3.




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Post Sun Aug 20, 2006 7:56 pm

Oh, didnt know that about the turbo's, my bad. Its like most "new" advances, theyre just copies of stuff that has been done already. Like Common Rail Diesel, cummins diesel engines had that years and years ago and now its new.

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Post Sun Aug 20, 2006 8:02 pm

Whats rong with a S14 4cyl diesel go like shit of a shovel :roll:
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Post Sun Aug 20, 2006 8:03 pm

Or off the back of an AA van, surely?
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Post Sun Aug 20, 2006 8:03 pm

Yeah rolling off at 0.04mph thts how fast it goes.
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Post Sun Aug 20, 2006 8:06 pm

beardymat wrote:
maxfield wrote:
Kos wrote: and if it does get done it would spank your dads M3 all the way from mansfeild to sunny spain!! winkeye
I know :cry:

But thats going to be along time yet :D
mind you i heard someone put a diesel in an m3 already!

oh wait, thats put diesel in an m3.




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