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Post Tue Mar 15, 2005 7:35 pm

Does anyone know if there are any numbers or letters in the chassis number that says its an Alpina
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Post Tue Mar 15, 2005 9:36 pm

there's a 4 letter number or letters stamped on the head or block i think

Just take the chassis no. to a bm dealer and they should help
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Post Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:37 am

should say Alpina in service book, there should be an engine number with a 4 digit number stamped near the bottom of the dipstick on most cars, the inlet manifold should have a unique 4 didgit number for the head, rocker cover MUST be black, and there could be some initials stamped here of the guy who built the car.

have you seen one you want? which model is it?

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Post Wed Mar 16, 2005 11:05 am

Hi Hap i already have a C2 2.5 that i am restoring it has all the things you mention cant find a signiture though have come across what i think may be another one Creg 1986 325i the guy does not know much about it and it has stood awile it has original alpina wheels 7in front 8in rear with fair tyres alpina front spoiler alpina steering wheel and has the C2 2.7 front grill badge this is what i can see from his pictures there may be more also like mine it has a old Syntner sticker in the rear window am going to see it on Sat everybody keep there fingers crossed for me I will buy it for the parts anyway but lets hope its a find i have the chassis number i wonder if Syntners would know. J
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Post Wed Mar 16, 2005 11:14 am

ring sytners at Leceister 0116 282 7711 ask for Gary in Parts he should tell you if they have the build sheet. if he confirms it is you still nedd to check for the stamps etc as the engine could ahve been changed to a stock 325 over the years. can you post any pics of it ?
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Post Wed Mar 16, 2005 12:51 pm

Will take some and post them sat or sun.
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Post Wed Mar 16, 2005 1:06 pm

My Sport says 2.5i Alpina conversion in the owners manual and there were some receipts for an Alpina exhaust years ago.
Theres also a small Alpina sticker on the boot lid instead of the M badge which has been there since new.

Anyone know what thats about? Is mine different from a normal sport?
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Post Wed Mar 16, 2005 1:14 pm

for a start no sports came with the M badge, these are retrofitted by owners. as for yours it could have the alpina "sport" pack which would have the exhaust, wheels and alpina cam..

However if it does not have wheels/alpina spoilers it couldjust have the zorst on it. put some pics of it up, has it still got the alpina exhaust, any engine shots i.e. 6 branch manifoild?

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Post Wed Mar 16, 2005 1:15 pm

Jordono did you ring sytners?
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Post Wed Mar 16, 2005 1:49 pm

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Not all Alpina cars will have the wording Alpina in the service booklet either, some cars were converted after they were new, and therefore won't have this little detail. Same goes for the signature or stamped initials, majority of German Alpina's ahd this feature, but as the engines were built in Germany then shipped across the channel for Sytners to instal, this tended to get left off!
Such a minefield trying to verify a genuine car these days, as Sytners only go back so far.
Jordano. Have you got the reg of this car? If you have mail me the details and I'll see if I can find info via the lists I have at home.
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Post Wed Mar 16, 2005 1:50 pm

very true Andy
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Post Wed Mar 16, 2005 2:43 pm

Tried Syntners said they needed the four digit number on the block also there may be a number on the strut tower under thr bonnet which is a WAP number i wont be able to check all this till sat the chassis number is wbaab420900870247 dont know reg number will ask.
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Post Wed Mar 16, 2005 3:02 pm

the wap number on the shock tower is std BMW, not specificly to an Alpina, the only Alpina's that had this were German built cars that had the original VIN no crossed out and a new one punched in, in it's place (or underneath it to be precise).
I don't understand why they couldn't use the chassis number you gave them, and why ask for the 4 digit no on the block (apart from saying it is an Alpina straight 6!?
Did you try Sytners in Nottingham or Leicester? Since Ged Scanlons departure, Nottingham appear to be a little lack where finding info for an older Alpina is concerned, but I have heard that the Leicester branch may prove helpful and yield dividends.
Where abouts is this C2.
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Post Wed Mar 16, 2005 4:23 pm

If I gave my Reg or chassis number could they tell me if mine has had anything done? I was pleasantly surprised when I opened the log book and saw it and saw the receipts as well. Here was me thinking someone put the sticker on themselves years ago.
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Post Wed Mar 16, 2005 4:38 pm

im sure they will advise what if anything was done to your car....the info is very sketchy though n they may not have any details at all but worth a shot!
try get pics of engine bay, 6 branch if has one and rear back box

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Post Wed Mar 16, 2005 7:26 pm

C2 2.5's didnt come with a 6 branch. The head was I think was similar to that of a 2.7 one.

These cars are very quick and the ones I now of put out 190 bhp.

If its got a Alpina sport pack then your sport is really worth something. Alot more than the rusty Ԛ£5000 ones advertised everywhere as "MINT".
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Post Thu Mar 17, 2005 10:12 am

Adam i am fairly certain that your car could ahve had the Alpina sport pack
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Post Fri Mar 18, 2005 9:48 pm

Cool, must try and find out some more! Going to BMW garage in the morning to get new exhaust manifold studs etc so will get some pics tomorrow. :D