New member from Holland ( incl pics )

[maxfield]

Wow i've missed this thread. Awesome project.

[Dan318-is]

Tom,

any update on this?

all those suspension/brake pictures were making me horny!

[dn808e2]

THESE DUCH PPL allways come up with something special.
I wish i have bought M3 E30 SHELL then back in 2003 , lad wanted
6.000 euros than it was just under 3.000£

[dn808e2]

THESE DUCH PPL allways come up with something special.
I wish i have bought M3 E30 SHELL then back in 2003 , lad wanted
6.000 euros than it was just under 3.000£

[cliffybabe]

what a wicked thread loving the pic's mate

[Pal318is]

The whole thing looks Spot On...and the whole suspension set up looks unbelievebly cool....Well done Tom...

Pal

[Tom944]

Long time ago but we've been busy with some other things. Have to be done too

The day before yesterday we've put the m50 in. We've got a S50b30 waiting but since we need to refresh it and we have test a lot ( suspension, car it zelf and everything ) we are going to use de m50 first.

Flywheel :



Engine ready, including clutch and gearbox



It's still so white



The car was set up a bit to low so screw it up



E30 for dakar



Allmost in



Whoops, well it was late, a small mistake



It's in!



Yesterday we gave the brakebooster a bit more space.



Fysically the engine is ready. Now the cooling, wireing and so on has to be done.





Yesterday afternoon we started making some brackets for the radiator. Since the new body hasn't got any it's a bit of work. Lower part is ready now.0



Soon some more I hope

[Dan318-is]

superb! keep it coming

[dobbie82]

Well done on what you have done so far and good luck with the rest of it!! I am very jealous and I wait for the next pictures to come and make me drool!!

[Jhonno]

looking great dude

[Morat]

These guys definitely deserved a brand new shell for this project. It looks like there's been no expense spared to build a really special car.

[fuzzy]

that is one special project,looking truely complete in every area.i doff my cap to you sir

[jonbuoy]

This is fantastic mate, welcome to E30Zone

I have seen the pic's of the car before, maybe before you bought it? It was mentioned on here before now when it was for sale, i think.

I will do this one day, it is a great ambition but i wish you all the best!


Question's:

1. Did you alter the height of the engine mount to be able to use the same brake servo?

2. There was a theory about not needing a rear strut brace because of the strength of the 4 door, do you feel different about this, as i was contemplating to buy one or not but had been put off by people saying it was a waste of money on a 4 door but a good improvement on a 2 door.

3. Did you need to alter the size of the tunnel? i've not seen alot of M50B25 gearbox's and that one you've got look's like it's auto I'm no doubt wrong as this is a race car you are building so i'll keep my mouth shut!

[Jhonno]

2. rear strut braces are a waste of time on an e30 unless they are welded strut to strut due to the rear sus setup

3. tunnel wont be modded

[Dan318-is]

2. rear strut braces are a waste of time on an e30 unless they are welded strut to strut due to the rear sus setup

what about if someone has butchered your parcel shelf?

[Tom944]

Thanks for the cool reactions people, e30zone definitly is a forum with people that respect each other rather than flaming and so on.

This is fantastic mate, welcome to E30Zone

I have seen the pic's of the car before, maybe before you bought it? It was mentioned on here before now when it was for sale, i think.

I will do this one day, it is a great ambition but i wish you all the best!


Question's:

1. Did you alter the height of the engine mount to be able to use the same brake servo?

2. There was a theory about not needing a rear strut brace because of the strength of the 4 door, do you feel different about this, as i was contemplating to buy one or not but had been put off by people saying it was a waste of money on a 4 door but a good improvement on a 2 door.

3. Did you need to alter the size of the tunnel? i've not seen alot of M50B25 gearbox's and that one you've got look's like it's auto I'm no doubt wrong as this is a race car you are building so i'll keep my mouth shut!

Well the body was for sale in germany but I don't know if he put the ad on this forum at that time.

Your questions:

1. At the moment we use the IX brakebooster. It is a bit thicker but smaller in diameter. The motormount arms are from an e36 and the rubbers from a e28 535i. On the booster side we've a small spacer to clear the room aswell did we take some fins of the intakemanifold. I hope that you understand this a bit, some say my english isn't that bad but i'm not convinced

2. Any strenght is welcome and since we got the strutbraces it's a shame to let them lying around. In combination with the reinforced strutmounts I think it will add stiffness. An e30 body isn't concidered as one off the strongest body's, especially in the rear.

3. As said, the tunnel is standard. We use the e30 transmission crossmember with e21 320i gearboxmounts with aluminium cups under them to make the movement of the engine and gearbox in front and rear direction less.

[Jon_Bmw]

I agree with the logic that you may as well use it if you have it lying around, sounds good to me. It should be pretty stiff anyway with the roll cage. It's welded in isn't it?

We are absolutly loving this project Tom so please keep it updated, and once again your english is perfect.

[iDreamBeemer]

Where in Holland are you based? I'm gonna be real cheeky - I'm over in Den Haag in a few weeks, would be cool to have a look in the flesh.....

[Demlotcrew]

Really goot project! On our first Ring trip last year we seen A foor door racer which was jagermiester orange and it looked the boloxs! Keep up the good work.

Before you fitted the 3.25lsd did you change the friction plates in the clutch pack at all?

Andrew

[w17led]

Tom,

what are using on top of the rear springs, looks like you can adjust the height?

thanks

[Tom944]

I agree with the logic that you may as well use it if you have it lying around, sounds good to me. It should be pretty stiff anyway with the roll cage. It's welded in isn't it?

The cage is welded indeed. We didn't weld it through to the frontstruts for several reasons. One of them is that when you have a crash and they hit your frontleft corner, instead of having one corner damage, your complete car is out of shape.

Where in Holland are you based? I'm gonna be real cheeky - I'm over in Den Haag in a few weeks, would be cool to have a look in the flesh.....

Lol, depends on when, in August I'm on vacation.

Before you fitted the 3.25lsd did you change the friction plates in the clutch pack at all?

Andrew

The differential was rebuilt not to long ago. We will have to test first how it goes.

Tom,

what are using on top of the rear springs, looks like you can adjust the height?

thanks

Indeed, you can asjust the height with that. We got those in the H&R Cup kit.

[bryang]

That is a fantastic project ..promise us you wont ever, ever bend it or grown men will be in tears over here..

[Tom944]

I hope not bryang!

Yesterday we made some progress again. We fitted the radiator and also the inlet system. The position of the airfilter is temtorary to start the engine. When the rest is finished we will put the filter on the place of the left headlight in a "box"




After that the electric fan was placed.



Connecting the engine wires to the e30 loom.



Then we filled the gearbox and engine with oil. Some electrical controles and builing up pressure with the starter engine without starting. We noticed how the fuelpump didn't sound. After some electricalsearch we found a bad ground. With the completely painted body that was a possible problem, and after fixing it the engine was running. Without exhaust but it still sounded like music to my ears I've got a small movie in very bad quality, but maybe fun.

[Morat]

I'm sorry, I think I just had a little accident....

[Hyperion]

this is like the ultimate rebuild ever!!!

[dn808e2]

get in 3.15 LSD ,for ammount of power your car 's gonna have it should b ok

[rare]

Erm, I have a massive erection.

I want to do this with a sport

[LowLevel]

Which gearbox are you using with the M50 motor?

[jonbuoy]

Thank's for your answer's to my question's

Getting it started must have felt so good, it's the heart of the car and without that your just a floating log!

Well done so far mate, look's like your progress is coming on in leap's and bound's

[Tom944]

Cool reactions

get in 3.15 LSD ,for ammount of power your car 's gonna have it should b ok

We've got a 3.25, should be okay with the 1:1 5th gear.

Which gearbox are you using with the M50 motor?

We use the gearbox from the same model e34. Shifter linkage is a different story.

Thank's for your answer's to my question's

Getting it started must have felt so good, it's the heart of the car and without that your just a floating log!

Well done so far mate, look's like your progress is coming on in leap's and bound's

You know it, it felt so damn good hearing that unsilenced engine idle. Especially knowing that the body never had an engine, we didn't know enough about the engine so we did some refreshing on some points but we never knew how it actually would run, and offcourse we've been working a lot and dreaming months of that moment

[nasir325ic]

awesome project mate, i'd love to have project like that

[E30_Pilot]

I wish they were more guys like you.

[LowLevel]

Which gearbox are you using with the M50 motor?

We use the gearbox from the same model e34. Shifter linkage is a different story.

Are the ratios in the E34 gearbox the same as the E36 325 manual gearbox?

[mrLEE30]

WOW now thats a beauty!! you must feel like a BMW works mechanic from the 1980's, hope you are listening to Wham or something similar!!

very good point about not welding the cage in front, that also gives me the impression you intend to drive this thing and not just look at it, RESPECT!!



mrlee

[aauser]

Hello Tom, that video sounds soooo good, you must have been ecstatic when it fired up. Well done and thanks for posting your story on the zone

Ray