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Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:24 pm

Hi guys,

I need to get new pads, rear disks and braided hoses done for my track day on the 25th, any advice on the best products to use?

Cheers in advance!
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m3ben05 wrote:Hi guys,

I need to get new pads, rear disks and braided hoses done for my track day on the 25th, any advice on the best products to use?

Cheers in advance!
Everyone will hate me for this but i use Zimmmerman drilled discs with std pads and braided lines and motul racing fluid, 3 open pit lane days already and they are fine, i will be changing pads to pagid fast road's soon. Brand is ok as M3 top speed there is >120mph so it's not hard on brakes at all.
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:02 am

Standard discs / calipers should be ok if you use decent fluid and pads, I would use Mintex 1166 and Mintex black if you're looking for something decent at an ok price or Mintex F4R and Castrol SRF if you want something better, failing that it's a brake change to AP for the ultimate
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everything I have read says that standard disks are the best you can get. I have just changed my rear disks for standard ones and even with ATE pads from eurocarparts it feels like I have thrown an anchor out the window. I have zimmerman cross drilled disks and pagid fast road ont the front but i will soon swap them to be the same as the rears.
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 7:51 pm

Standard discs are an ancient design and there are loads better discs out there for tracking your car if you are having to change anyway
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Wed Jul 05, 2006 3:13 am

what is the price on AP brake kit for e30 m3 than?
does it have to be brand new ? or second hand will b ok?
what size of calliper is the max allowed to m3 e30 ?
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Thu Jul 06, 2006 1:02 pm

Another option, should be ready "soon"..... :wink:

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Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:18 pm

AP's are bloody expensive at around £1200 + VAT but like I said they are the best, end of. Wilwood's I have to say are incredible value for money, £400 for the kit and they worked well enough for us to break 4 lap records and win 8 races last season, wouldn't bother with standard when Wilwood's are so good for a few pence more
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Would the wilwoods fit the 325 and were do I get them from for the best price?
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Taffy are brembos close to APs in performance wise as my dad has gone for brembos?
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Mon Jul 10, 2006 5:42 pm

TRACKM3 wrote:Everyone will hate me for this but i use Zimmmerman drilled discs with std pads
I've got that on the back of my 325, but only as it's what i had spare at the time. I've heard far too many horror stories about drilled disks to risk them on the front. I think my fronts are ATE disks with EBC pads.
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Mon Jul 10, 2006 5:50 pm

maxfield wrote:Taffy are brembos close to APs in performance wise as my dad has gone for brembos?
Not really AP are the best but Brembo for a street car is very good also!

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Will they be pretty good on a track then?
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Mon Jul 10, 2006 6:19 pm

Wilwood or AP's that what i'd use on a 325, wilwood's are £400 AP's are £1200 AP's are better (you get what you pay for) but unless you're racing you won't see the difference
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Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:11 pm

on my track car i've run ebc green, pagid fast road, delphi standard and now mintex 1166 race, never tried the ferrods, the mintex 1166 are my recomendation by miles followed (along way behind) by the ebc greens, the delphi actually out performed the pagid fast road, i've run catrol srf but would recommend ap 600 fluid its less than half the price of the castrol and on a par with it to be honest the mintex 1166 with the ap fluid lets me lock the wheels and don't fade for more than 10 laps so that's all the brakes I need, the guys at questmead are the guys to talk to but are really race focused rather than street
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Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:20 pm

ChrisR wrote:mintex 1166 with the ap fluid
That's what i'm going for eventually.

The guy that looks after my car did a back to back test when he was at arrows F1 with SRF and AP and the drivers preferred the AP.
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keri-WMS wrote:Another option, should be ready "soon"..... :wink:

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and how much will that set me back??
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keri-WMS wrote:Another option, should be ready "soon"..... :wink:

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and how much will that set me back??
We can't put an accurate price on it until there has been a batch made, but I'd hope it'll be in the £500-600(+vat) bracket.... Watch this space!
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Demlotcrew wrote:
maxfield wrote:Taffy are brembos close to APs in performance wise as my dad has gone for brembos?
Not really AP are the best but Brembo for a street car is very good also!
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Brembo is top quality too. Many WRC teams can't be wrong. :wink:
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Yaninnya wrote:
Demlotcrew wrote:
maxfield wrote:Taffy are brembos close to APs in performance wise as my dad has gone for brembos?
Not really AP are the best but Brembo for a street car is very good also!
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Brembo is top quality too. Many WRC teams can't be wrong. :wink:
Yes, but the Brembo kits he is referring to are road kits not race/rally products and NOT in the same league as AP, personally i'd fit Wilwood and be done with it
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Sat Aug 12, 2006 1:01 pm

ia m going putting in new pads in the m3 next and going to try the mintex i say. is the ap and all the other fluids dot 4 or dot 5?
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Sun Aug 13, 2006 3:11 am

the brake fluid iwill use on the M3 is castrol srf , i belive its dot 4 and its never boiled on me when i used it in my tech1 sport, but it is expensive stuff!!

dot 5 need replacing more often i think
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Sun Aug 13, 2006 7:14 pm

Forget about the dot number, Mintex Black or Castrol SRF are racing fluids, you won't have any hassle with either of these, both are superb quality and will do anything thrown at it
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Sun Aug 13, 2006 7:27 pm

cheers for the advice i might change the fluids when at the pads.
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Mon Aug 14, 2006 7:15 am

Yes I would, AP stuff is decent as well and better priced
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