Golf servo M50 conversion length of spacer?

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Fri Jun 30, 2006 8:12 am

Hi just finished my M50 conversion, but having a small issue with my brakes at the moment, what length did people make the spacer for the master when using the golf servo?

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Fri Jun 30, 2006 11:23 am

trial and error mate.

needs to be just long enough to take out slack, but without pre-loading the master cylinder when you push it against the servo

get something easy to cut like a pencil, cut a section off and try it. keep shortening it until the master cylinder will just fit flush with the servo without the piston moving.

that make sense?
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Fri Jun 30, 2006 11:24 am

er, edit, then when you have the right length re-make the spacer from an old bolt that fits snug in the hole in the master cylinder. don't use the bit of pencil lol
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Fri Jun 30, 2006 3:41 pm

Toby_Unna wrote:er, edit, then when you have the right length re-make the spacer from an old bolt that fits snug in the hole in the master cylinder. don't use the bit of pencil lol
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Fri Jun 30, 2006 4:10 pm

If you use the mk1 golf servo it fits on without the need for the spacer.

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Fri Jun 30, 2006 4:11 pm

ed325i wrote:If you use the mk1 golf servo it fits on without the need for the spacer.

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I thought it was the Mk1 GTI that just bolts on ?
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Fri Jun 30, 2006 4:13 pm

its a case of finding a mk1 being broken nowadays tho

a mk1 non gti one would be good for me..
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Fri Jun 30, 2006 4:17 pm

Andy335Touring wrote:
ed325i wrote:If you use the mk1 golf servo it fits on without the need for the spacer.

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I thought it was the Mk1 GTI that just bolts on ?
Sorry yes mk1 gti golf just bolts on. I think the non gti ones are smaller but should still bolt on??

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Fri Jun 30, 2006 4:21 pm

Here is a pic.

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http://www.e30zone.co.uk/modules.php?na ... golf+servo

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Fri Jun 30, 2006 4:37 pm

:woohoo: my pic is being used.

Yeah the Mk1 Gti servo fits without the spacer, but it does need the linkage at the back to be drilled out to accept the E30 linkage pin.

The Mk1 non-Gti servo will fit, but its to small for the E30 - the brakes on the Mk1 1.3 Golf were bad enough. Its not something Id want to use on an M50 converted E30 8O

As has been mentioned, finding a Mk1 Gti servo isnt going to be easy now. I think they can still be bought new, but wont be cheap.
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Fri Jun 30, 2006 4:41 pm

jmc330i wrote::woohoo: my pic is being used.

Yeah the Mk1 Gti servo fits without the spacer, but it does need the linkage at the back to be drilled out to accept the E30 linkage pin.

The Mk1 non-Gti servo will fit, but its to small for the E30 - the brakes on the Mk1 1.3 Golf were bad enough. Its not something Id want to use on an M50 converted E30 8O

As has been mentioned, finding a Mk1 Gti servo isnt going to be easy now. I think they can still be bought new, but wont be cheap.
ive driven without the servo disconnected and could still lock the brakes, a small servo isnt really an issue for me

just where the hell to find one :lol:
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Fri Jun 30, 2006 4:49 pm

cheers guys, looks like i'll be going with some trail and error this weekend then :)
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The Mk1 non-Gti servo will fit, but its to small for the E30 - the brakes on the Mk1 1.3 Golf were bad enough. Its not something Id want to use on an M50 converted E30
well im hoping with the Z3 rears and E36 front brakes i should be able to stop :mad:

Did feel pretty damn good going round the block. Maybe thats cause they were already half on :D 8O :mad:
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Fri Jun 30, 2006 5:09 pm

The brakes will be fine, they must work without the servo, but it all depends on hard you want to press on the brake pedal.

With the smaller servo, you will need to press harder.

(if Ive got that right :mad: )
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jmc330i wrote:The brakes will be fine, they must work without the servo, but it all depends on hard you want to press on the brake pedal.

With the smaller servo, you will need to press harder.

(if Ive got that right :mad: )

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Fri Jun 30, 2006 6:47 pm

I thought with a smaller servo you have more vacuum, therefore you would need to press the pedel less "Hard"

I went round the block with my "Small" servo and the brakes felt the same :D
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Sat Jul 01, 2006 1:51 pm

jmc330i wrote::woohoo: my pic is being used.

Yeah the Mk1 Gti servo fits without the spacer, but it does need the linkage at the back to be drilled out to accept the E30 linkage pin.

The Mk1 non-Gti servo will fit, but its to small for the E30 - the brakes on the Mk1 1.3 Golf were bad enough. Its not something Id want to use on an M50 converted E30 8O

As has been mentioned, finding a Mk1 Gti servo isnt going to be easy now. I think they can still be bought new, but wont be cheap.
I bought a Golf GTi Mk I off German Ebay, but ended up using a E30 iX tandem servo instead when one turned up.

Would like to sell it as I have no use for it.

However I am in Malaysia. Please PM me if keen and I can find out postage costs to ship the thing to Blighty.

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Tue Jul 04, 2006 7:02 am

Shortened my spacer and all seems well at the moment, altho i might have shortened it a little to much now as theres more play in the peddle before i stop :roll: Will get there soon, thanks for the advice guys.
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Tue Jul 04, 2006 9:34 pm

i really don't understand why the oem servo can't fit with the m50?
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its too large and fouls on the inlet
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Tue Jul 04, 2006 9:42 pm

i have no clereance isues with oem servo and m50 :eek:
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post a pic up then
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Wed Jul 05, 2006 3:24 pm

I bet its left hand drive!
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Wed Jul 05, 2006 3:59 pm

stevetigger wrote:I bet its left hand drive!
Servo is still on the left side of the car.

I guess if the engine was tilted away from the servo enough it would fit, but Im still not sure how it would all fit :?
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Wed Jul 05, 2006 4:15 pm

OKK, second guess its a 325ix that he put the M50 in! :mad:
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Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:48 pm

I fiteed a Mk 1 Golf GTi servo to my E30 today.

It does fit without modifying the spacer to the cylinder.

But , I did find that when I swapped my end on to the shaft, it was to short!

the GTi Servo seems to have a slightly shorter shaft!
I got round this by using the E34 end as they are extra long and you can cut the m down to fit.
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Thu Jul 06, 2006 8:09 am

yes it's left hand drive, i used m50 from e34 and engine mounts from e36 325 and fits perfect
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Thu Jul 06, 2006 1:48 pm

Gabi_323i wrote:yes it's left hand drive, i used m50 from e34 and engine mounts from e36 325 and fits perfect
Same here but RHD
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