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Fri Apr 21, 2006 2:46 pm
Ive got loads of revision to be doing for my end of year exams at uni.... so I though what better way to waste some time than play around with wheels!! Annoyingly the car isnt looking as I want it, at present - having been repeatedly let down by a mate of a mate who is spraying my tec1 skirts, front spoiler and bootspoiler insert.
Anyway - just wondered where you guys stand on the alpina vs hartge debate. I'm leaning towards Hartge, mainly because the alpinas need refurbishing, but the large number of replicas also detracts from the alpinas perhaps.........

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Fri Apr 21, 2006 2:54 pm
Hartges every time. Alpinas and Alpina reps probably outnumber bbs cross-spokes by now.
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Fri Apr 21, 2006 2:54 pm
Hartge everytime! THey are more of a performance wheel than the ALpinas
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Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:13 pm
Definately Alpina's for me, but it's your choice, not mine

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Fri Apr 21, 2006 4:14 pm
Hartge, but you know im bias as I bought your 15" Hartge wheels for my chariot
I see you found some 16"s
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Fri Apr 21, 2006 4:19 pm
Alpina's (but if your gonna use them - loose your outside weights

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Fri Apr 21, 2006 4:21 pm
Hi Paul - I thought you might vote for the hartges!! Yeah I was really lucky and got hold of a set of 16's, done a good turn by a fellow zoner you could say. How are those 15's? Are they refurbed and on yet, I look forward to the pics!
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Fri Apr 21, 2006 5:21 pm
Demlotcrew wrote:Hartge everytime! THey are more of a performance wheel than the ALpinas
Andrew
Andrew we have had this debate before to the point of wieghing both wheels on the bathroom scales whilst on the phone!
They weigh the same. Hartge rims are not more performance orientated.
Alpina's add a touch of class

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Fri Apr 21, 2006 5:39 pm
Hartge all day long....too many Alpina reps out there which spoil it for the originals, also Hartge much much lighter.
U know it makes sense Simon

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Fri Apr 21, 2006 5:44 pm
Theo325 wrote:Hi Paul - I thought you might vote for the hartges!! Yeah I was really lucky and got hold of a set of 16's, done a good turn by a fellow zoner you could say. How are those 15's? Are they refurbed and on yet, I look forward to the pics!
Not yet. The refurb budget went on a set of H&R anti roll bars

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Fri Apr 21, 2006 9:26 pm
having 2 hartge cars i supposed i have to be biased but they piss all over alpinas and alpinas are for classy type of ppl where as hartge alloys were designed to be more of a race wheel type being lightweight and ultra strong!! hartge all round are so much better than alpina but i will not start a debate me and iain both know though!

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Fri Apr 21, 2006 10:05 pm
Hartge's for me too, genuine alpina look crap unless mega clean and 8J rear, alpina reps look much nicer than genuine, but the wobble ruins them, hartges just look so much nicer, especially the side profile!
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Fri Apr 21, 2006 10:37 pm
can I have the set you dont use?
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Fri Apr 21, 2006 10:46 pm
Simon13 wrote:Demlotcrew wrote:Hartge everytime! THey are more of a performance wheel than the ALpinas
Andrew
Andrew we have had this debate before to the point of wieghing both wheels on the bathroom scales whilst on the phone!
They weigh the same. Hartge rims are not more performance orientated.
Alpina's add a touch of class

Where is the alpina crew??

... Have to totally agree with Simon the
hartge wheels are just not my cup of tea if not a little boring lol
Alpinas all day long original that is
come on the alpina crew.....
ALPINAS

Mine
Simon13 hope you didnt mind mate
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Fri Apr 21, 2006 10:55 pm
wow - that close up of one of your alpinas is impressive, thinking of getting my set done, anyone had any experience with BJV Engineering? Got a very good quote from them, not sure if it includes respraying/laquering the centrecaps though!
Bob_S - definately keeping the hartges for now, but as for the alpinas i'm listening to offers, but by no means desperate to sell as Im thinking of keeping them for whatever e30 i get for summer.
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Fri Apr 21, 2006 11:07 pm
Theo325 wrote:wow - that close up of one of your alpinas is impressive, thinking of getting my set done, anyone had any experience with BJV Engineering? Got a very good quote from them, not sure if it includes respraying/laquering the centrecaps though!
Bob_S - definately keeping the hartges for now, but as for the alpinas i'm listening to offers, but by no means desperate to sell as Im thinking of keeping them for whatever e30 i get for summer.
Theo.......BJV are 15 mins away from me other side of watford
Yet all my wheels get done at lepsons they have done my 15inch bbs and my set of Alpinas 7 front 8 rear and they are second to none floorless well worth the effort mate i would not use anyone else
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Sat Apr 22, 2006 12:19 am
on your car i'd have to say hartge, however, i usually prefer alpinas. BK racing have ruined the alpina for everyone else but the real 8j ones... oooh!
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Sat Apr 22, 2006 9:51 am
it's always me on my own fighting the alpina corner.
this is all shit about hartge wheels lighter and racing pedigree this and that. They ain't no lighter and they ain't no stronger. They bend just like alpina's do very easily
Now tell me this don't look good?! why do people stare at these rims when they are spinning? cos they look pukka!

who is that driving

oh the shame
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Sat Apr 22, 2006 10:03 am
Its not the rims they are staring at but the driver !!!!!!!
Si, you never take losing the debate gracefully...........lol
Hartge by a mile !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sat Apr 22, 2006 10:17 am
never!
alpina's came with bmw warranty when new!
the only hartge i'd have is a h27SP yeah baby a proper 220bhp chariot
look! throttlebodies!
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Sat Apr 22, 2006 10:21 am
AC Schnitzers dudes!!!!
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Sat Apr 22, 2006 10:36 am
can't see it! it's too small mate

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Sat Apr 22, 2006 11:35 am
Definately Definately 100% Alpina all the time - next to a proper set of Alpina's the Hartge look crap

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Sat Apr 22, 2006 11:43 am
aauser wrote:Definately Definately 100% Alpina all the time - next to a proper set of Alpina's the Hartge look crap

u need to vote mate!
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Sat Apr 22, 2006 11:51 am
Already have done Simon

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Sat Apr 22, 2006 11:56 am
Hartge all the way man
alpina's are becoming too common now
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Sat Apr 22, 2006 2:53 pm
hehehehe so funny how ppl get irate about a simple things like wheels!! hey si chill m8!! HARTGE ARE BETTER THOUGH hehehehehe

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Sat Apr 22, 2006 5:34 pm
tylerma wrote:Hartge all the way man
alpina's are becoming too common now
Thats the problem there are to many fakes around which cheapens the originals which are very nice wheels but Hartge are more exclusive because of the fakes
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Sat Apr 22, 2006 8:25 pm
I think the voting pole does all the talking here guys!! HARTGE. Its a class above!! And yes im biased, but for the right reasons.
Hartge Split rims wins it even more comfortably!!
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Sun Apr 23, 2006 3:47 am
I like the alpina's but on your car i would go hartge

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Sun Apr 23, 2006 9:39 am
Simon13 wrote:aauser wrote:Definately Definately 100% Alpina all the time - next to a proper set of Alpina's the Hartge look crap

u need to vote mate!
simon
like the picture. kelleners also did tunning and conversions in the eighteys along with the others, and still are.
2.7 and 3.5 conversions etc, although there bodykits where a bit off.
the wheels on that are o.z turbos. rare rims now, and fetch good money.
as for alpina/hartge.
im not to fussed, but hartge did a better job overall. in my opionion the alpina stying is lovely, even the stripes. alpina also rolls off the toungue better.