FITTED H&R CUP KIT + got to bottom of clunk noise!!! we

Post Wed Apr 19, 2006 5:19 pm

Well yesterday fitted the H&R cup kit e46 m3 rear top mounts , Front lower arms , front top mounts and drop links all round , o and also track control rods!! all was not easy top strut bolts were a ass hole and things were a bit fidly however now weve found after goin to get it tracked that the drivers side piece of the steering rack that connects to the track control rod is bent in a bad way thus causing vibration , and poor tracking even though its tracked up perfect! just to check with anyone whos ever had this are these the kind of symtoms i should expect ??

anyway i went for the h&r cup kit along with the powerflex accentric lower arm rear bushes , ive still got the rear subframe bushes , the rear wheel bearings cam belt and tensioner to do but once this is done and ive changed the steering rack over it should be loads better!!! wat do u think and does anyone understand why it woiuld vibrate with them symtoms yes ?? please help taa ian.

Post Wed Apr 19, 2006 5:23 pm

nice drop, looks proper down in the weeds lol !

not sure why the steering damage could cause the vibes though, can you take a pic of the affected area ?

nice work, enjoy the rear wheel bearings, FUN fun fun !

Post Wed Apr 19, 2006 5:35 pm

Here you go ant m8 yeh im not doing them rear wheel bearings nor the rear axle bushes ramp job definatly!! lol anyway here where the damage is i can see it slightly now its on the ground when the wheels off its a different story its like a triangle lol when u spin it round it just goes up down up down if u get me wrong shape!!
tell me anything you can bud id appreciate it!! ta ian.

Post Wed Apr 19, 2006 7:54 pm

Right can anyone tell me Wat that piece of the car is where the arrow is pointing at i dont know the correct name for it please can someone help me see its slightly bent ive recently fitted a new steering rack but god nos how i didnt notice such as life......basicly to the left of the arrow its the track control rod!! that bolts to the lower arm , then to the right its where the watever piece arrowed goes into the steering rack by the look of it am i correct that this is the case or is it a case of getting a whole new rack again?? anyones advice welcomed thanks ian.

Post Thu Apr 20, 2006 9:56 am

u need to change the steering arms complete... they are Ã‚£30 each ish of euros they include the whole arm with track rods AND the inner piece with the inner balljoint

Post Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:21 am

Thats the inner tie rod, where did you get the Outer tia rod? (the silver part you call track control rod)

Andrew

Post Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:34 am

oops didnt realise u changed the outer tie rod

Post Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:35 am

Karan... he HAS replaced the whole arm, including the inner ball joints... can you not see the new arm and balljoint in the pics?

Andrew... Tie-rods you can get from GSF.

Ian, not sure the bent steering rack would cause the vibration. Only thing I can think of is an out-of-balance wheel or an incorrecty fitted lower bush.

Giles

Post Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:37 am

Geeman wrote:Andrew... Tie-rods you can get from GSF.

The last time i looked they were black not silver!

Now im just wondering if its an Alu parts or if its from a E36 ???

Andrew

Post Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:38 am

Aaaaah, ok. I see now.

Post Thu Apr 20, 2006 8:31 pm

cheers for answering the questions lads ive changed everything there that i thought possible im gonna check the lower bush the other thing ive got you see is round a right hand corner the steerings mega heavy and dont feel right theres a small like knock off something down there!! bloody e30s lol i need more time in a day hehe!! cheers karan for the info on the steering arms i thought it was something like that just didnt kno the word for em lol!! sorry demlot lol i got the wrong word for the tie rod ends who cares lol!! im no good with words!
anyway lads cheers for everything im gonna be on the case tomz fingers x rear sub bushes , rear wheel bearings , cam belt and tensioner all being done by my good m8 tomz lol

Post Thu Apr 20, 2006 8:39 pm

Sorry for the O/T but but hows the H35 going mate ?

Post Thu Apr 20, 2006 9:44 pm

It never helps when people have different names for the same thing,
Going back to the pic.... i would call the black bit the track rod, and the bit with the thread and the balljoint... the track rod end

Post Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:01 pm

You usually get a bend in the track rod if the tracking has not been done for a while and you need to heat it up because it has seized. Where it twist's that's when you get a bend

Not unless it's had a whack

This should'nt cause vibration but will deffinately through your tracking out when driving as it will not give an accurate line for the wheel's to follow.
Also, did you change the bushes on the rear of the lower arm's? If they're not up to much cop then what will happen is when you accellerate your wheel's will through them selve's out, causing the wheel's to toe out.

Not sure if i'm right in thinking but has the car been sitting for while? As this will have caused the tyre's to have flat spot's.

Were the top mount's re-newed? This also could cause the steering to be tight if the bearing's are a bit stiff.

Post Sat Apr 22, 2006 3:28 pm

ok well got to the bottom of the Clunking noise as it turns out the steering rack ive had fitted is fucked along with the shafts that go into the tie rod ends this morning we finished doing the rear subframe bushes and one rear wheel bearing o my life ant you werent wrong about the rear wheel bearings!! m8 we had to buy a sledge hammer and set up a huggge socket and bar , my m8 couldnt budge them even with the sledgehammer so i had a go!! lol 3 minutes she was out... but he tried every tool hammer in the book yesterday he had one done yesterday amongst all the stripping down and other ppls cars lol fair play though wat a job!! wouldnt wish it on me worst enemy!

But wat a difference to the rear end its like a rock! now sick. very pleased just need the rack now and some serious$$$$ lol