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Post Wed Apr 12, 2006 8:16 pm

Well I've just got back from 'Zone' chipping my 325i Sport, and F*ck me readers does it make a difference! Ok, so it might be connected to Busters old M20 engine, but I ran it before the chip and the difference is Awesome!

I highly recommened getting your ride chipped if you're looking for that bit of extra Ooomph!!
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Post Wed Apr 12, 2006 8:52 pm

can you get any bmw chiped ? sounds good. :D
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Post Wed Apr 12, 2006 9:10 pm

As far as I know, Yes.

Check out the 'Zone' chips in the shop, should tell you if ur car can be done.
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Post Wed Apr 12, 2006 9:11 pm

nice one mate,has anyone rolling roaded one before and after the chip to find out performance figures,ive never seen actual figures mentioned,doesnt affect me ,im just curious winkeye
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Post Wed Apr 12, 2006 9:17 pm

I'm just looking forward to getting it on the real road, been SORN for 6 months MOT and the weekend...DOH!!

Buster might know the gains from the chip, this engine and ECU used to belong to him.

I'll look at getting it on a Rolling road at some point, just out of curiousity cos I've never had it done before.
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Post Wed Apr 12, 2006 9:24 pm

typical gain is 7-12 hp,. slightly more on the torque, the main gains are felt in the midrange area where the stock fuelling/timing is optimised for emissions not power

Mpg is normally improved due to the better power delivery, I had tons of dyno sheets from way back in the day but my old PC bit the dust and they were all scanned onto there :cry:
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Post Wed Apr 12, 2006 9:29 pm

rolling road sessions can be quite nerve racking,standing next to your car indoors,as someone else screws the arse of it,whilst hoping the whole thing doesnt go bang 8O i had my current engine done when it was fitted to my last project ,its a good feeling when its all done and it was a good result though winkeye
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Post Wed Apr 12, 2006 9:45 pm

sounds good, but does it have any long term affect on the car?, it might seem a silly thing to ask , but not used to this moding thing, but like the idea of a bit more go.
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Post Thu Apr 13, 2006 8:11 am

good to hear you are pleased with it!

ordered mine on sunday night, to go in my 1986 325i auto, just wish it would arrive!
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Post Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:54 am

You have definately made a good choice there Innes!!

Improved emissions and MPG?? The good news just keeps on coming!!
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Post Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:59 am

Hi Ian,
its a good engine,the cam also makes a differance and also its a good chip !!
when i put the cam it was a little lumpy at idle also a bit hesitant,This was fixed by using the zone chip as it brought the idle speed up a tad.The big bore throttle body made a nice differance also.
Im glad you managed to get the ecu pluged in,i wont tell the rest of the zoners where you were trying to plug it in :teehee:

I had a super chip in before the zone one,it wasnt bad but it wasnt as good as the zone one.
Still got it sat here in an old ecu,as Ant probably remembers i fitted the zone chip there and then at rockingham !!

cheers
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Post Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:05 am

Cheers Andy,

My head is still sore from banging it against a wall!!
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Post Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:05 am

oh nooooooooooooooooooo

ya cant plug the ecu into the abs :snigger:
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Post Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:07 am

Or the radio.......... winkeye
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Post Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:07 am

BUSTED!!!

I blame the Haynes manual, showing a god damn LHD!!
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Post Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:07 am

dazleeds wrote:oh nooooooooooooooooooo

ya cant plug the ecu into the abs :snigger:

LOL busted ! i never said anything :teehee:
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Post Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:10 am

TBH people who look at my car think the ABS ECU is the ECU cos it's bigger!
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Post Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:31 am

Is it worth getting your fuelling checked on a RR after fitting a zone chip or are they nice and conservative? (Assuming your car was running fine to start with). Also, whats the difference between a 325i chip and a 325i Touring chip? Or is that just so that people get the chip listed when they click on Touring parts?

On a related note, whats the usual gain from a BBTB?
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Post Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:33 am

I think just having the CO checked by your MOT guy with a butt probe is sufficient. And if it's out just ajust the AFM. Not that I've ever bothered, :oops: it passed the MOT!!! winkeye

Oh and PS Zone Chips Rock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well done ANT :group: :bow:
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Post Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:44 am

buster wrote:Hi Ian,
its a good engine,the cam also makes a differance and also its a good chip !!
when i put the cam it was a little lumpy at idle also a bit hesitant,This was fixed by using the zone chip as it brought the idle speed up a tad.The big bore throttle body made a nice differance also.
Im glad you managed to get the ecu pluged in,i wont tell the rest of the zoners where you were trying to plug it in :teehee:

I had a super chip in before the zone one,it wasnt bad but it wasnt as good as the zone one.
Still got it sat here in an old ecu,as Ant probably remembers i fitted the zone chip there and then at rockingham !!

cheers

It was the purchase of a chip that got me introduced to the zone. I think I got it through ebay. It was sold to me as an Alpina chip. At the time Hertge chips became available too.

How do these compare with what is being sold as the Zone Chip now? I noticed a difference with my chip (i think), but was wondering if the Zone Chip is better??
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Post Fri Apr 14, 2006 7:56 pm

Ant wrote:typical gain is 7-12 hp,. slightly more on the torque, the main gains are felt in the midrange area where the stock fuelling/timing is optimised for emissions not power

Mpg is normally improved due to the better power delivery, I had tons of dyno sheets from way back in the day but my old PC bit the dust and they were all scanned onto there :cry:
Ant, any idea of rough figures / benefits on a 073 325i?

Cheers :thumb:
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Post Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:39 pm

wildeian wrote:BUSTED!!!

I blame the Haynes manual, showing a god damn LHD!!
I did that too!!! I blame haynes!
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Post Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:53 pm

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Post Sun Apr 16, 2006 1:01 am

073 and higher comp make a good combo with a few tweaks Ziggy.

Chip is well worth the £Â£, check the ECU type, 28 pin = good, 24, minor PITA but still ok,(soldering req!)
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Post Sun Apr 16, 2006 10:03 am

In relation to fitting the chip, My mate is fitting it for me as im very slightly backward with things like this. He wants to put a wideband lambda sensor on the car to check afr, is there a boss to put this into on the std exhaust?
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Post Sun Apr 16, 2006 12:58 pm

no boss mate, unless you're blighted with acat equipped car( doubtful, phew ! )

I have a spare tailpipe WB02 adapter if you want to borrow it fella, hell, you can borrow my innovate LM1 for a day if you like ? jut dont loose it :lol:
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Post Sun Apr 16, 2006 1:01 pm

Ant i have always been told its much better to weld in a O2 bung just after the manifold to get correct readings. For the sake of £25 i would get one welded in (which im about to get) and put the WB02 in there for mapping. (it might also come in use at a later date if you were to select Lambda control.

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Post Sun Apr 16, 2006 1:08 pm

Thanks for the offer Ant, but he works for Field Motorsport so im pretty sure he will get something to do it. Either that or use his highly tuned nose :teehee:
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Post Sun Apr 16, 2006 1:39 pm

Ant wrote:073 and higher comp make a good combo with a few tweaks Ziggy.

Chip is well worth the £Â£, check the ECU type, 28 pin = good, 24, minor PITA but still ok,(soldering req!)
Meh, I'll look when the chip arrives; soldering's fun! :mad:
Cheers dude, was just checking it'd be worth having on 073 really - now I shall go put my exhaust back on, get to hear the new mani ( :D ), & order a chip in the very near future! :cool:

Are there any differences on a chip designed to go with a 6 branch etc? Probably getting a BBTB soon too...?
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Post Sun Apr 16, 2006 5:58 pm

lmao a.b.s!!!!!!!
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Post Mon Apr 17, 2006 12:54 pm

Ant i have always been told its much better to weld in a O2 bung just after the manifold to get correct readings. For the sake of £25 i would get one welded in (which im about to get) and put the WB02 in there for mapping. (it might also come in use at a later date if you were to select Lambda control.

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Totally agree fella, I have 2, 02 bungs on mine and have used both for comparisons sake, they give the same readings, my point was that its not always an option to weld the bung due to time/material/space restrictions, thats where the tailpipe 02 unit comes into its own, provided the design is correct and the sensor sees enough flow the readings will be correct sampled from anywhere in the system.Obv no use for closed loop though lol !
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Post Mon Apr 17, 2006 3:16 pm

Ant is there any plans to do a chip for the M30 3.5? it seems a lot of people are now doing the conversion, myself included.

Sorry for jumping in on this thread but I hear a lot of very positive talk about the 'zone' chip and would love one for my M30 :D
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Post Tue Apr 18, 2006 3:26 pm

got no plans @ this time due to other things coming further up the list.

can I tempt anyone for a Megasquirt ECU instead ? same amount of wiring overall, easier to tweak later and no more pesky AFM, you know it makes sense winkeye
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Post Tue Apr 18, 2006 3:46 pm

Not for me just yet...! Spent far too much recently.
So does a zone chip work fine irrespective of other bolt on mods? Ie would the same chip be ideal for someone who's currently just got a 6-branch, & might want to get a BBTB too (me!)? Ta :thumb:
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Post Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:06 pm

Anyone know what there like on a 320i? im tempted winkeye