Bulletproof E39 shooting break

[e30topless]

It's a shame it hasn't got the Manual 6 speed for a quicker getaway



http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301469233413? ... 26_rdc%3D1

[Andy325i]

Interesting, but how many spelling errors can you get in one advert? And is it just armoured glass or bullet proof body panels as well?

Interesting never the less

[Topblag]

Tempted. I do enjoy a shooting break and don't mind a left hooker. The wife did say she would shoot me if I bought another bmw......

[pacerpete]

If I had a pound for every ad where some peasant with an E38 / E39 with double glazing reckoned his turd was 'armoured' / bullet proof, I would be rich

Proper armoured turdz are very different to standard cars and that turd is definitely NOT armoured.

[gooner1]

Obviously not Pete, cos you've just shot it to pieces.

[DanThe]

There are lots of E39's that have "armour prepared" on the build sheet, this does not mean it is bullet proof or that it has any more protection than a standard E39, there are also lots of E39's that have double glazing, again, dont throw stones/pop caps etc

Bodged up polish turd, and thats about it.

[e30topless]

If I had a pound for every ad where some peasant with an E38 / E39 with double glazing reckoned his turd was 'armoured' / bullet proof, I would be rich

I knew you would be the first to spot that !

[zd3bx]

Never understood people who bought a car with a big engine and then put LPG on it

Buy a Micra, if you can't afford the petrol, but don't ruin a 540i...

[DanThe]

Never understood people who bought a car with a big engine and then put LPG on it

Buy a Micra, if you can't afford the petrol, but don't ruin a 540i...

Ha! Ridiculous statement of the year award early entry

[e30topless]

Never understood people who bought a car with a big engine and then put LPG on it

Buy a Micra, if you can't afford the petrol, but don't ruin a 540i...

so you have never run a 540i as a daily then ?

[pacerpete]

LPG is great IF it is done PROPERLY unlike the Polski sklep in the back of that '39

[bab-91]

I'd defiantly fit LPG to an 'offender' or Range Rover.

[Brianmoooore]

LPG is the fuel you need to be using if you want an engine to last. A far more suitable fuel for a spark ignition engine than petrol.

[DanThe]

This is much more fitting for the up and coming gangstar innit

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-728I-LPG- ... SS:GB:1120

[zd3bx]

If LPG is so good, last time I checked there's not a single major manufacturer who sells a car with LPG fitted? There must be quite a few reasons behind that...

Yes, I know, obviously the mpg of the 540i will be monstrous, but that's my point - if you can't afford it, don't buy it

[maxfield]

If LPG is so good, last time I checked there's not a single major manufacturer who sells a car with LPG fitted? There must be quite a few reasons behind that...

Yes, I know, obviously the mpg of the 540i will be monstrous, but that's my point - if you can't afford it, don't buy it

Vauxhall for one. Or they used to.

[bab-91]

LPG isn't readily available in all areas.

[zd3bx]

Don't get me wrong, I don't have anything against LPG in general - if you want to use it and it seems like a more appropriate choice (financially) in your position, then go for it...

What I find silly is when LPG is fitted to cars, which are initially thirsty, so buying them for fuel economy is pointless in the first place (if that's what you care about)...

But then fitting them with LPG makes you look like boy racer who can't afford to pay for petrol. Some old AMGs come to mind...

Again, this doesn't apply to commercial vehicles or cars with small'ish engines, which are decent on fuel as standard, so fitting LPG makes sense.

[Brianmoooore]

All spark ignition engines run by igniting a mixture of air and 'gas'. Petrol is not a gas at normal temperature and pressures, so has to be made to simulate a gas for the engine to work.
This requires a high pressure electrically powered pump to transfer the fuel from the tank to injectors, normally mounted as close to the engine inlet valves as possible, which then squirt the fuel under pressure to form a mist - as close to a gas as the petrol is going to get. As soon as the mist is formed, it will start to condense back to a liquid, which doesn't happen a great deal with a hot engine, but when cold, an appreciable amount does condense, washing the oil film off of the cylinder walls and contaminating the oil in the sump.
LPG is stored as a liquid in its tank under considerable pressure, so no pump is required to move it. It's just fed through a pressure reducer, where it turns into a proper gas, with no tendency at all to turn back into a liquid. This gas is then fed to injectors, which are just simple solenoid valves, also mounted close to the inlet valves, but this time only to reduce throttle lag, where it readily mixes with air to form the flammable mixture. No tendency to separate again, no washing of oil from the bores, no oil contamination, and no need to pour in half as much fuel again as is actually required until the engine is hot.
The combustion products of LPG are largely innocuous - no acids contaminating the oil as with petrol. Very little CO produced - a correctly set up engine running on LPG will produce emissions well under the post 08/91 limits without the aid of a power sapping catalytic converter.
I can, and do, happily work on running LPG cars in my workshop with all the doors closed, where, if I tried the same with a petrol (or God forbid, a diesel) car, I would have passed out or have a severe headache in minutes.

[Simon13]

An AK 47 would turn that thing into a tea bag in 3 seconds

[DanThe]

If LPG is so good, last time I checked there's not a single major manufacturer who sells a car with LPG fitted? There must be quite a few reasons behind that...

Car manufacturers are in bed with petroleum companies for obvious reasons, when they have a massive population of ignorant car buyers why would they turn them against their big buddies that give out advertising/sponsorship money because they are selling fuel at extortionate prices?

I run a 540i as a daily car, 20k miles per year, why would I pay £100 for 300 miles when I can pay half? Add up the savings, it more than pays for my heavy right foot connected to a 300hp V8 every day

What do you drive most days out of interest?

Oh, and just to rub it in

[DanThe]

Poland are one of the biggest users of LPG for cars, all the parts for my conversion came from there at more or less half the price they cost in this country. Like everything, there are pros and cons, but its there to be taken advantage of IMO.

[DanThe]

Plenty of filling stations in the UK, the only problem is most are pricing it against petrol, rather than the actual cost of the gas

http://www.filllpg.co.uk/index.php?page=lpg.php

[Topblag]

I smoke about in a an E34 525ix touring running lpg. It's about 47 mpg equivalent on the lpg, has 4wd, a monster boot and tows things. What's not to like ? I don't understand the anti-lpg stance. Just be sure there are supplies in range. I have one station 3 miles away and another 9 miles away.

[Simon13]

As said a million times before its fine if there is an LPG station on your door. There isn't one where i live and if i did have an lpg'd motor i'd have to make a specific trip to fill it to go to a place i never visit otherwise. That would get boring rather quick.

[Andyboy]

I can, and do, happily work on running LPG cars in my workshop with all the doors closed, where, if I tried the same with a petrol (or God forbid, a diesel) car, I would have passed out or have a severe headache in minutes.

I actually had carbon monoxide poisoning a few weeks back when I briefly fired up an M535i in the workshop. Ran it for 10-20 seconds, shut it off, job done. Within 10 mins I felt queazy, went outside and keeled over next to a car in the road. Was lying there semi conscious for 5 mins and felt very dizzy and disorientated for 2-3 hours.

[DanThe]

I hear an M30 burns 14 litres of fuel per minute at idle when cold

[pacerpete]

I can, and do, happily work on running LPG cars in my workshop with all the doors closed, where, if I tried the same with a petrol (or God forbid, a diesel) car, I would have passed out or have a severe headache in minutes.

I actually had carbon monoxide poisoning a few weeks back when I briefly fired up an M535i in the workshop. Ran it for 10-20 seconds, shut it off, job done. Within 10 mins I felt queazy, went outside and keeled over next to a car in the road. Was lying there semi conscious for 5 mins and felt very dizzy and disorientated for 2-3 hours.

There is a Maxfield gag there somewhere


On a more serious note, I trust you maced the victim for your troubles