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Sat Jun 21, 2014 2:42 pm

bss325i wrote:As I asked but got no reply, what is your location h2ggv?
sorry didnt see your question last time im up north hartlepool.

travelling up and down at the min is not a option i just don't have the time.

would love somebody local.

been out in the car today and was driving fine for the frist 5 min say and i mean perfect then had a 3 min holding back stage. then after that it was perfect.

That seems to be the pattern with it
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Sat Jun 21, 2014 2:46 pm

pacerpete wrote:
bss325i wrote:As I asked but got no reply, what is your location h2ggv?

Oop north and he doesn't want to travel.


Adam spent / wasted many thousands on this engine build / set up.
I assume it did run and drive alright at some stage.

£7.86 spent on manky used bits and some hot tips from some of the zone experts are unlikely to solve the OPs issues.

The car needs to go to somebody familiar with what has been done, ideally the person who fitted / optimized it.

PS I wonder how many PMs the OP has had from benevolent zone types offering to solve his issues by swapping him a standard 325 engine for his pile of troubles :)
Im not expecting to fix it with a 8 pound part the car still drives fine just has a 3 min holding back stage like something is stopping it.

I know you are saying take it to a person that knows but i just dont have the time its book in the bodyshop tuesday so will try and get some answer/parts before then.

sorry if i sound stupid its just im learning everyday i have text adam and got no reply witch i am a little unhappy about i would just like a few questions answering as he should know
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Sat Jun 21, 2014 3:15 pm

Sounds like it may be an issue with the cold start map, quite a common problem with aftermarket engine management installations.

My Tech 2 325i Sport had Megasquirt fitted by its PO, and had such issues, but once up to temperature, was OK.

I suspect most tuners concentrate only on achieving the best performance with the engine up to temperature, and ignore the cold starting requirements! :roll:
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Sat Jun 21, 2014 3:31 pm

Speedtouch wrote:Sounds like it may be an issue with the cold start map, quite a common problem with aftermarket engine management installations.

My Tech 2 325i Sport had Megasquirt fitted by its PO, and had such issues, but once up to temperature, was OK.

I suspect most tuners concentrate only on achieving the best performance with the engine up to temperature, and ignore the cold starting requirements! :roll:
might be that wonder why the 320 inlt is on it tho text adam again no reply
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Sat Jun 21, 2014 3:35 pm

The 320 inlet will hurt power but it will NOT cause intermittent running issues. Air leaks are the biggest cause of poor running on most engines, standard or modified.
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Sat Jun 21, 2014 4:23 pm

pacerpete wrote:The 320 inlet will hurt power but it will NOT cause intermittent running issues. Air leaks are the biggest cause of poor running on most engines, standard or modified.
cheers i will order that new pipe see if that does anything
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On another track, why don't you remove what appears to be a MAF attached to the airbox, and find out:

a) What type it is - it should have a part number somewhere.

b) Whether it's element is clean - they are very sensitive to dirt and grease from say, a K&N air filter.
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pacerpete wrote:The 320 inlet will hurt power but it will NOT cause intermittent running issues. Air leaks are the biggest cause of poor running on most engines, standard or modified.
cheers i will order that new pipe see if that does anything

That pipe is NOT off an E30. Hopefully it is a BMW part and there is a part number on it.
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cheers guys i will have a look at it all tomorrow and see if i can get some part numbers off it
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Cheers for all the help guys been working on the car today. got the problem sorted fingers crossed it stays that way.

started by taking the full airbox and all pipework off its shocking how bad them pipes were held together had about 1mm play. tapped the split hose up as a temporary measure but still got a good seal.

Took the sensor thing off and cleaned with carb cleaner blocked one end up filled up with cleaner and let soak for a hour.

Give all pipes a good clean took air box out the air filter was in a shocking state that hadn't been change in a while i wouldn't of said. it seems strange to spend all that money on the car and not change cheap service parts and that pipework setup was shocking. Just took air filter out new service kit is on order so car will be fully serviced soon as that lands.

Tried to run the normal fuel pressure reg if that's what its called disconnected the red one but once the car was all back together it wouldn't run. so had to connect the old one back up.

Car started great sounded nice on tick over went for a 20 min drive at all different types of driving pushed the car when i could after 10 min of normal driving without fault sound perfect no blips jumps or anything I am over the moon

Thanks again guys for all the help i have also found a guy local to me called big fish tuning have had a few cars tuned in the past basic maps on audi/vws tdi's. But he has a rolling road and would be good to listen to his input and see if the car is performing at its best.

Any help on a fuel regulator bmw part that would work that would bolt on so i could ditch that red thing would be a great help cheers

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Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:03 pm

Your pic. of the engine bay in your OP appears to show a gauge on the side of that FPR.
What does it read when you suddenly open the throttle wide?

There's still the mystery of the 2 litre inlet manifold.
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Brianmoooore wrote:Your pic. of the engine bay in your OP appears to show a gauge on the side of that FPR.
What does it read when you suddenly open the throttle wide?

There's still the mystery of the 2 litre inlet manifold.

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tried to call adam no answer or return of my calls sent him a few texts no reply think he doesn't want to speak to me seems he now has my money.

just cant understand why he has spent so much money and the car has pipes on that car like that
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So what does it read with the engine running?
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Sun Jun 22, 2014 10:52 pm

Thats what most modified cars are like.
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Brianmoooore wrote:So what does it read with the engine running?
what a tool i am i posted the wrong pic sorry.
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What's the scale - bar, psi, etc.? I'm assuming that's reading 4 bar, which is rather high for an M20 engine - the 325i normally has a 3 bar fpr.
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Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:39 pm

black is kg/cm what ever that is red is psi
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That's near enough equivalent to bar; 14.5psi = 1 bar, which more or less tallies with the red psi scale.
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Any bmw parts i could use to do away this item or might knock a bracket up and move it out the way
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You could probably use the standard 325i one; it's also used on the M30B35, which knocked out 220bhp, so should suffice for your engine.

Perhaps your existing BMW one is kaputt...
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Speedtouch wrote:You could probably use the standard 325i one; it's also used on the M30B35, which knocked out 220bhp, so should suffice for your engine.

Perhaps your existing BMW one is kaputt...
cheers will have a look see what i can find thanks
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There's a BMW FPR on the fuel rail that can be seen in the engine bay pics. Vacuum port is just left open, and presumably the fuel return port is blanked off somehow, otherwise it would be leaking fuel.
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Brianmoooore wrote:There's a BMW FPR on the fuel rail that can be seen in the engine bay pics. Vacuum port is just left open, and presumably the fuel return port is blanked off somehow, otherwise it would be leaking fuel.
I will have a good look in the morning see what i can see.

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h2ggv wrote:Tried to run the normal fuel pressure reg if that's what its called disconnected the red one but once the car was all back together it wouldn't run. so had to connect the old one back up.
Sounds like he already explored that avenue...
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Speedtouch wrote:
h2ggv wrote:Tried to run the normal fuel pressure reg if that's what its called disconnected the red one but once the car was all back together it wouldn't run. so had to connect the old one back up.
Sounds like he already explored that avenue...
yep took it off it look fine to me still wont start
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Brianmoooore wrote:There's still the mystery of the 2 litre inlet manifold.
I wonder if he has an eta block with a 2.0 head and inlet mounted on it!
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Quaser wrote:
Brianmoooore wrote:There's still the mystery of the 2 litre inlet manifold.
I wonder if he has an eta block with a 2.0 head and inlet mounted on it!
Why would this or just the manifold still no answer of the original owner
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A common engine conversion - easy route to 2.7 engine

Eta block with 2.0 head - if it was a lazy conversion - the complete head and manifold may be used instead of upgrading to 325i manifold - check the casting on the head - is it 885 or 731??
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Quaser wrote:A common engine conversion - easy route to 2.7 engine

Eta block with 2.0 head - if it was a lazy conversion - the complete head and manifold may be used instead of upgrading to 325i manifold - check the casting on the head - is it 885 or 731??
The car was originaly a 325i forgive me if i sound daft any location for this marking
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thought i would chop the rear pipe down today as it was sticking out a mile sprayed the battery box i had welded in and cleaned the rear end up.

Anyone know if this is original Tyre on the spare its brand new

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Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:52 pm

Yes, that is an original spare. Them NCTs are period correct and were quite a tyre, twenty five years ago ! :)
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Mon Jun 23, 2014 6:23 pm

engine numbers

spark plug side round circle says 2.5

Inlet side says bmw1289575 12L87

I think its hard to see. whats does that mean i have
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That'll probably be an '885' head then - there should be an '885' stamped on there somewhere, near the 2.5 circle.
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Speedtouch wrote:That'll probably be an '885' head then - there should be an '885' stamped on there somewhere, near the 2.5 circle.

It is definitely a 325 head. tHe head casting number is on the inlet side and pretty hard to access. The 2.5 at the front on the exhaust side confirms it so at least that is one mystery solved.
This is one of the many issues with modified cars, knowing what bits make up the jigsaw :(
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