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Fri Mar 28, 2014 1:39 pm

hi I'm finally stripping my e36 donor car this weekend and i just want to triple check which parts i need before the car goes to car heaven.the obvious is engine gearbox loom ecu radiator. there isn't any small bits i need to take off is there?

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Fri Mar 28, 2014 4:21 pm

ews bits,prop shaft, check the diff may be lsd?
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Fri Mar 28, 2014 4:41 pm

For EWS stuff, you need the control unit (behind glovebox), sender unit (on steering column), transponder ring (ignition barrel) and the key. Take as much wiring as you can with you - same with the engine loom.

As said above, prop. Also need engine mounting arms, electric fan if you're going to use. I make a habit of stripping fuses, relays, earth straps etc too as you never know when they might come in handy :)
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Fri Mar 28, 2014 5:22 pm

sweet cheers yeh forgot to say prop! was going to take out diff anyway and try and sell that so the ews thats all ill need? if i was going to delete ewe do i still need all that? don't worry every time my mate gets a scrapper i always nick all the fuses, nuts bolts and bulbs!! I'm a cheapskate :)
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Fri Mar 28, 2014 7:59 pm

Why would you want to delete the EWS?
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Fri Mar 28, 2014 8:18 pm

I've seen a few people say about ewe delete on here, what would you recommend? what would i do about the key do i have to change the barrel on my e30 to the e36 one?
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Fri Mar 28, 2014 8:42 pm

I think some people do it to keep things 'simple'. Also I'm sure I've read somewhere that its required for a remap? Someone else will be able to confirm. No need to use e36 barrel, you can fit the transponder ring to the e30 column, nab the chip from the e36 key and fit it into a torch type e30 key. Worth retaining for security purposes imo.
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Fri Mar 28, 2014 9:08 pm

Motorhole wrote: Worth retaining for security purposes imo.
It's the only immobiliser worth having.
It takes me less than five seconds to deal with an E30 OE immobiliser fitted to BMW's instructions, and only a minute or so at most to deal with any aftermarket E30 immobiliser I've come across.
I cannot defeat an EWS immobiliser without hooking in another ECU.
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Fri Mar 28, 2014 9:46 pm

cat 1 alarm and EWS is hard to nick

EWS3 is more simple to nick and really easy

Shocking easy
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Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:31 pm

ok cheers for the help :) so for the ews i need:

box behind the glovebox
ring
chip in key

what about wiring where does it stem from is it just from the box to the ring and to the edu i presume? i want to try and get all i need before the car goes and i realise i need something important!!
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Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:47 pm

rich318i wrote:EWS3 is more simple to nick and really easy

Shocking easy
I thought it was the same as EWS2 apart from the receiver is built into the unit?

To the OP if you are not using the prop drop me a pm 8)
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Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:52 pm

Ring plugs into 'box', 'box' requires an earth, permanent live and ignition switched live, and a single wire to the ECU.
'Box' also has relay contacts to interupt the signal to the starter motor, but it's not necessary to connect this in.

Edit: I've missed out the antenna receiver box, which simply plugs into the antenna ring and to the 'box'.
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Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:11 pm

leeparkes wrote:
rich318i wrote:EWS3 is more simple to nick and really easy

Shocking easy
I thought it was the same as EWS2 apart from the receiver is built into the unit?
IIRC, you wired EWS2 into your late E36 compact. EWS3D (as found in late E36 compacts) works the same as EWS2 but the antenna ring is wired directly to the EWS module. The wire colours match up between the two, but the EWS module PIN numbers differ.

EWS3 is the later version and different again. I've not looked into it, but believe its more difficult to wire into a non-EWS3 car. Couldn't say how easy it is to bypass to steal a car.
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Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:27 pm

jmc330i wrote:
leeparkes wrote:
rich318i wrote:EWS3 is more simple to nick and really easy

Shocking easy
I thought it was the same as EWS2 apart from the receiver is built into the unit?
IIRC, you wired EWS2 into your late E36 compact. EWS3D (as found in late E36 compacts) works the same as EWS2 but the antenna ring is wired directly to the EWS module. The wire colours match up between the two, but the EWS module PIN numbers differ.

EWS3 is the later version and different again. I've not looked into it, but believe its more difficult to wire into a non-EWS3 car. Couldn't say how easy it is to bypass to steal a car.
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Sat Mar 29, 2014 9:02 am

Knew I had this somewhere! Left to right: sender unit, control box, ring, ecu. I've also got the plug that goes into the control box sat on top of the ecu there. You'll want that too.

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Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:25 pm

cheers ,so the wiring then i don't need to take it out of the e36 i just make my own up? i just need the things in the picture above and the key as well?

does anyone have a wiring diagram i could work off?

cheers for all the help guys :)
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Sun Mar 30, 2014 11:09 am

Yep, stuff in the pic plus the key. Take as much wiring form the car as you can, including the complete engine loom. There are wiring diagrams in the wiki regarding splicing the E36 engine loom into the E30 body loom, but depending on how enthusiastic about wiring you are and how much you want to spend, DanThe on here does a plug & play loom in exchange for your engine loom from the donor. I don't consider it expensive given the amount of time and effort at saved me potentially tackling it for the first time!
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Sun Mar 30, 2014 1:16 pm

I'll vouch for the loon from dan fitted mine last week and it's a nice fit looks great too
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