lollipops offset or standard?

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Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:09 pm

not taking about the brackets talking about you can't use the E30 ones with E36 bushes. With the correct brackets YES !!!
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Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:10 pm

you lot a bunch of anal nobs or what
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Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:12 pm

So why do powerflex sell the same bush for E30 and E36?
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Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:19 pm

i dont know lol ask powerflex i dont live and breath looking up everything about E30's
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Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:21 pm

And every other company sell them as E30/E36...

Surely that tells you something?

Or are you taking C3 info as gospel?
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Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:25 pm

maxfield wrote:And every other company sell them as E30/E36...

Surely that tells you something?

Or are you taking C3 info as gospel?
1mm to the e30 to the e36.
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Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:26 pm

your right end of...
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Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:31 pm

rich318i wrote:i dont know lol ask powerflex i dont live and breath looking up everything about E30's

No you just live,breathe to confuse the shit out of everybody :mad:
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Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:35 pm

Right, hope tomorrow to fit mine with the E30 lolly pops and E30 M3 offset bush and will measure the lot and post the pics
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Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:56 pm

Make sure you buy every bush available and take multiple measurements of them all fitted, oh, and dont forget to road test each bush for at least 10,000 miles too
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Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:34 am

DanThe wrote:Make sure you buy every bush available and take multiple measurements of them all fitted, oh, and dont forget to road test each bush for at least 10,000 miles too


makes me think now dan thats what you have done it seems lol :roll:
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Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:50 am

rich318i wrote:Right, hope tomorrow to fit mine with the E30 lolly pops and E30 M3 offset bush and will measure the lot and post the pics

Hold on rich I thought you we're gonna prove the 36 ones don't fit the 30, not that the 30 ones fit the 30 :mad:

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Sat Mar 15, 2014 8:25 am

I popped into c3 the other day to buy mine. I asked to see both bushes, couldnt see much difference, but went with the e30 ones. He offered them at the e36 price though at £18 although i wasn't fussed
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Sat Mar 15, 2014 9:30 am

rich318i wrote:
DanThe wrote:Make sure you buy every bush available and take multiple measurements of them all fitted, oh, and dont forget to road test each bush for at least 10,000 miles too


makes me think now dan thats what you have done it seems lol :roll:
Im so worried, ive had these bushes fitted for 10 years and they could pop out at any time without warning :eek:
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Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:56 pm

This thread is getting out of hand....
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Sat Mar 15, 2014 6:33 pm

I have been using E36 bushes in E30s for many years. In fact, I ONLY fit E36 M3 concentric bushes in standard non 'motorsport' E30s and have done for nigh on twenty years and have never had an issue , not that I would expect one as they are dimensionally EXACTLY the same .
I have known a few people have issues using the Powerflex type bushes but as I never liked the look of how they are fitted and the original bushes are so cheap, I have never used them.
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Sun Mar 16, 2014 7:01 am

steve_k wrote:
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steve_k wrote:is it possible to use a two leg bearing puller to remove the old brackets from the wish bone??
I used a bearing puller to get my old bushes off the wishbones.
Easy? Or hard? Never used on before :o:
Sorry I missed this up until now...

No its very straight forward. Get the pullers round the edges of the lollipop and wind the threaded stud of the puller onto the control arm in the center of the bushes.. There's a pic in the link below which helps explain..

http://eurowerks.org/showthread.php?t=32581

I should imagine its not good for the bushes itself, but you'd be pulling them off top bin them anyway...

The job of getting the actual bushes out of the lollipops takes a bit more effort... I think I went through a similar process as below..

http://www.bimmerforums.co.uk/forum/f92 ... al-t87648/

Getting new bushes in the lollipops, I got so far using a vise, but ended up taking them to a mechanic up the road who had a 20ton press.

Then for getting them back onto the control arms, I got some threaded bar, nuts, washers and a bit of steel, to make this....

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G-Bear wrote:
steve_k wrote:
G-Bear wrote: I used a bearing puller to get my old bushes off the wishbones.
Easy? Or hard? Never used on before :o:
Sorry I missed this up until now...

No its very straight forward. Get the pullers round the edges of the lollipop and wind the threaded stud of the puller onto the control arm in the center of the bushes.. There's a pic in the link below which helps explain..

http://eurowerks.org/showthread.php?t=32581

I should imagine its not good for the bushes itself, but you'd be pulling them off top bin them anyway...

The job of getting the actual bushes out of the lollipops takes a bit more effort... I think I went through a similar process as below..

http://www.bimmerforums.co.uk/forum/f92 ... al-t87648/

Getting new bushes in the lollipops, I got so far using a vise, but ended up taking them to a mechanic up the road who had a 20ton press.

Then for getting them back onto the control arms, I got some threaded bar, nuts, washers and a bit of steel, to make this....

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You must work fast G Bear I thought the car had to be back on its wheels in 20 minutes for the bushes to settle in the correct position on the wishbones.
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Sun Mar 16, 2014 10:59 pm

If E30 bushes are 1mm bigger than an E36 bush, I'd fooking hate to try fit an E30 bush into the lolipops as the E36 ones are a tight fit as they are.

1mm is a big difference in something that's a press fit and you'd know it pretty quickly if it was true.

I've been fitting E36 Eccentric bushes to loads of E30s as they are cheaper than E30 M3 ones if buying from the dealers. I also fitted E30 M3 ones for others that supplied bushes and to one of my own car years ago before and there was no difference whatsover that I could see.
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Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:18 am

E36 and E30 wishbone bushes are dimensionally identical externally and internally.

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Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:32 pm

broadie wrote:

You must work fast G Bear I thought the car had to be back on its wheels in 20 minutes for the bushes to settle in the correct position on the wishbones.
Yes I read that once or twice.. after changing them. The car certainly wasn't back on the ground 20 minutes after. I think it remained on axle stands for a while whilst I changed a few other bits.

Oh well they were cheap bushes that aren't staying in too long, they were more to get the car back on the road fast at the time.
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Tue Mar 18, 2014 12:47 am

air hacksaw 2min job and whack them out and wind the new ones in all can be done still on the car if you got the right tools

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