Falken or Toyo?

[bss325i]

I have had all manner of conti's on RWD cars including the 5P's on my E46 M3 and never found them hard.

Infact, they have only lasted about 12k.

[NoTurbo]

Toyos every time.

I've been really disappointed with the last couple of sets of falkens, which didn't last any longer, and had considerably less grip than toyos.

It has to be T1-R though, the T1-sport isn't a patch on it.

Our mk2 golf gti, e30 m3 and e36 m3 all run t1-r all round as they offer the best grip / life / price compromise I've found.

+1 for the TOYOS

[G-Bear]

Some of you lot have more tyres than I've had hot dinners...

[satan16v]

I said I'd never buy Toyos again after they kept spinning up on the M25 in the rain.
They were by no means illegal 3mm left, but at 50mph in my 320d tourer they kept stepping out. Scary as hell!

I've had various falkens on various cars and wheels, and can say they are by far and away a better all round tyre.



But now I'm running Continentals on most wheels

[DanThe]

At 3mm they are pretty much useless for driving in rain

[bss325i]

Well the car they are going on wont see rain.

[whiterhino]

I just googled the tyre size you want bss and a place called tyre traders has Pirelli p zero coming up @ £ 236. I don't know if that's per tyre or for 2. Check it out.

[Gert_8]

At 3mm they are pretty much useless for driving in rain

with 3mm, I wouldn't consider driving in the dry, let alone the rain..!

[satan16v]

At 3mm they are pretty much useless for driving in rain

with 3mm, I wouldn't consider driving in the dry, let alone the rain..!

Fair enough, horses for courses

[faze30]

Ive always run with falken. & im a tyre dealer and recommend Falkens

[CaesarBob]

For my two cents:

I've just finished my second pair of rear T1R's on my daily 328i. Both have lasted about 11k miles and I've had no complaints on a price/value basis. They more than coped with my occasional moments of open diff hooliganism.

Never run the Falkens, they've always been on the short list, but never made the cut. Would be interested to see which you choose Barry.

[bss325i]

I'm swaying toward toyo to be honest.

[tom325ise]

If it was the FK452 (or it's successor) I'd be going for that, but I'd definitely go for the Toyo T1-R over the ZE912

[verde]

maxxis schmoke the best

LOL your a fucking hoon

Toyos = a bit wild. Good tyres, but the e21 is a 316 which had probably 75bhp when it last ran, and i had a few scary moments in it...god knows what itd be like with more power like your cars. I wanna try falkens next....they handle my mates 323 E46 with his insanity

[DanThe]

If your having moments with 75hp then your tyres are obviously scrap!!

[DanThe]

maxxis schmoke the best

Check out the chromies

[87mtech27]

maxxis schmoke the best

Check out the chromies

[e30topless]

I'm swaying toward toyo to be honest.

IMO the Toyo's are better, softer compound but wear quicker.. Maybe because they grip well?

I have a few oh-shit moments with falkens in damp/cold weather they are quite hard, and let go when pushed.. never ever had that with toyo's

[Kos]

The toyos are over rated and are best suited to lighter cars I'm my experience

I've run falkens for the last 10 years with no real problems at all except they don't like cold damp roads. No summer tyre does to be honest

But in the last few years I've been running goodyears (F1 asymetrics) and they make most tyres feel like ditch finders in the rain

Anyway, both tyre options you have are evenly matched. Let's be honest the car won't be driven much an never in raid lol
on a personal point of view an asymetric tyre patterns on an older BMW has more of a period look to it than the modern V patterns

[Gert_8]

Are these going on your sport, Barry, or a cabby?

Like my trainers, I like a tyre with a good tread pattern. Toyos have it for me

[powelly]

The touring has Toyo's Barry, personally I think they are rubbish, soft sidewalls, they make the back end feel wayward in my opinion. I would try the Falkens, do Kumho make anything.

[Blitz]

Are these going on your sport, Barry, or a cabby?

Like my trainers, I like a tyre with a good tread pattern. Toyos have it for me

I dont like the tread pattern looks wrong on E30s.

[powelly]

You have a point Mo, they do look a bit VW scene

[bss325i]

AGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

Why can't someone decent make tyres in my sizes!!!

[bss325i]

Are these going on your sport, Barry, or a cabby?

My sport which is annoying enough let alone what wheels they are going on!

These middle of the road brands are criminal!

It's like wearing a Hugo BOSS suit and a pair of George of ASDA shoes!

[Demlotcrew]

Do Khumo do anything? Great tyres.

[bss325i]

Do Khumo do anything? Great tyres.

Only some track tyres in the 225/50 and normal tyres in the 205/55.

Must match!

[Demlotcrew]

I guess you don't want to go down a side wall size?

[bss325i]

No mate deffo not! Would look proper pony on 205/50's and 225/45's.

[Demlotcrew]

I think it will look nice, balloons look equally as bad in my opinion.

[bss325i]

I think it will look nice, balloons look equally as bad in my opinion.

They are not baloons, they are correct and look period.

From my sport thread...

15" BBS RS? Are you going staggered 205/55 front 225/50 rear?

Hell yeah! Proper 80's chunky look, none of his stretched, poke and gape nonsense!

They are BBS RS001's no less, the correct 15x7 ET25 size for an E30!

The rears are going an inch wider and the fronts 1/2 inch so 15x7.5 and 15x8. The ET changes as well but can't remember of the top of my head what it is but works out fine.

Tyres will be 205/55 and 225/50. If you thought 205/55's were hard to find in a decent brand, 225/50's are 10 times worse!

From what I have found out only mk2 MR2's and Lamborghini countach front tyres used 225/50/15.

Will look something like this as the white car is running the wheel and tyre sizes I'm going for and is a similar height to mine.

[Demlotcrew]

Looks like a drag racer, not my coup of tea, soz Bazz!!!!

[bss325i]

Hardly. That's how they looked back when new, none of this stretched, gape, undersized nonsense.

The front size is standard and the rear a touch wider.

You telling me all E30's with the OE 205/55/15 look like dragsters?

[Demlotcrew]

Absolutely, that's why so many are running 205 50's, the gug set the standard.

[bss325i]

205/50/15.

Wrong, council, tight c unt, looks gappy unless slammed*


*see council.

You know I'm right.