Standalone?

[l33-lsh]

Hello, which standalone? Built a m20b20 turbo

[jimmyspeed]

firstly whats your budget ?

[ross2009]

m20b20 turbo ????? why ??

[l33-lsh]

Because I bought a car cheap that's already got a b20 in and it's been de comped already, also the drain for the oil return is already in the sump. So it's easy, when it pops it will be b25. Really don't want to spend anymore than 300-500.

[gromgsxr]

megasquirt maybe?

[jimmyspeed]

for that sort of money it will either be a new megasquirt or vems unit, i can't think of many ecu's for that price really, great at keeping the cost down and there are tonnes of good results and support for the megasquirt online-

if you can stretch your budget or buy second hand alot of others are available

- Emerald based in kent has a good reputation especially if you take it there for tuning, best features i think is the inbuilt igniters and user-friendliness and you get them on ebay frequently

Omex you will need the 710, expensive but a well known brand a few zoners have them some on s14's

Link g4 well built from newzealand? have only heard good things but expensive

Haltech . another user friendly system from Australia

Adaptronic 420d - what i will be going for , built in map sensor

AEM - you have to go for a higher spec because of the amount of cylinder - american

Motec - very good/very expensive

Autonic - high end ausie unit


best to take a look at them and see which is best for your setup.

[l33-lsh]

Looks like megasquirt then. Seems a lot of support out there and reasonably priced.

[e21jps]

ecu master EMU.... 10x better than megasquirt! and really well priced, used them on a few m20's now and cant fault it, directly reads the triger etc, nothing additional needed

from Poland, does EVERYTHING incl knock and wideband cheaper than all the ones above

[aze30]

if you go down the megasquirt route let me know i will put you intouch with a guy that knows them inside out and fits them too...he will also travel to you
he has just done my mercedes cosworth and done an awesome job , it looks factory fresh!...drop me a pm if u like

[ross2009]

if you go down the megasquirt route let me know i will put you intouch with a guy that knows them inside out and fits them too...he will also travel to you
he has just done my mercedes cosworth and done an awesome job , it looks factory fresh!...drop me a pm if u like

not shaun is it by any chance

[aze30]

if you go down the megasquirt route let me know i will put you intouch with a guy that knows them inside out and fits them too...he will also travel to you
he has just done my mercedes cosworth and done an awesome job , it looks factory fresh!...drop me a pm if u like

not shaun is it by any chance

yeah...u know him ross?

[ross2009]

yeah known him for years im the one that has put him in touch with most people
on here he maps mine all the time

[aze30]

awesome..hes a sound guy cant fault his workmanship and knowledge

[ross2009]

you prob got in touch with him thro someone I put In touch with him lol

[aze30]

nah i got to him via phil from extra efi...lol

[ross2009]

o right I know phil aswell lol

[gromgsxr]

Ms2 tuning by any chance?

[aze30]

o right I know phil aswell lol

cool lol...hows ur beast runnin? What sort of power is it pushing at the wheels?

[ross2009]

last time I had it mapped was over 400bhp

[aze30]

last time I had it mapped was over 400bhp

....fook 400 ponies in an e30??
ive got nearly that many in my cossie and keeping that on a straight and narrow is hard enuff lol

[ross2009]

lol 400 in a e30 is a whole different kettle of fish i can tell ya ive been in over 500 bhp cossies but id rather drive a 400 plus e30 any day

you wait till you see what im doing now

[l33-lsh]

what extras are needed other than megasquirt kit itself?
do I need to change any sensors?

[ross2009]

you can use the bmw coolant temp sensor (blue one) you'll need a seperate iat sensor and you can still use the crank trigger sensor depends how your going to run it eg wasted spark or from a coil if you go wasted spark you can do away with the front dizzy and run coil packs but then the ecu will need coil drivers put in as a mod unless you get coil packs which already have drivers built in
I used a coil pack from a v6 omega

[l33-lsh]

I have just beem doing a little reading and looks like I will be going omega v6 coil pack

[ross2009]

so in that case then you'll need 3 coil drivers adding to the ecu as one coil driver drives 2 sparks only extra sensor you'll need is a iat sensor then you can ditch your air box and air flow meter

[l33-lsh]

sorry im new to all this megasquirt, do I have to discus this with whoever im buying the ecu off? or can I add the drivers?

[ross2009]

again that depends how you buy it you can buy ms in kit form which is cheaper and you build it yourself while learning how it works or you can buy a built one which will be more money I can put you in touch with a guy that builds them and can do the modifications for you if you don't want to
there's different models of ms too ms1 ms2 with different board variations and there's the new ms3 which I think is all surface mounted

[l33-lsh]

which would you advise?

is it basic soldering to build it?

[ross2009]

yeah just as long as you feel confident enough to solder that's all it is I bought mine second hand but sent it to my mate just to check it out to see if it was working ok

either will be fine just depends on how lazy you wanna be lol

[l33-lsh]

I hope for about 350bhp+
I found v3 for 445 not built

[ross2009]

350 from a 2ltr ? that's abit ambitious lol

that seems abit steep for a kit one

[l33-lsh]

I already have the turbo td05

[l33-lsh]

im sure it will be a 2.5 in near future.

that's off ebay 445 for a ms3

[ross2009]

good
that's not bad for a ms3 my mates does a ms2 for 405 and ms3 for 490

[l33-lsh]

alright cheers just let us know.

whats bhp is yours running then?

my engine been has been de-comped so I hope to get near that figure.