E30 M3 Touring project with S62 power
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Tan91
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What more could you want..
Touring for space and comfort
M3 styling from the iconic ages
lastly...
a great engine to the make the world move in the opposite direction...
hats of this is amazing!
Touring for space and comfort
M3 styling from the iconic ages
lastly...
a great engine to the make the world move in the opposite direction...
hats of this is amazing!
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agreedCoops90 wrote:Pretty much my dream E30 in every way here.
Keep it up.
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DavesM3
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Thanks everyone for support.
Another week another bit of progress.
One of the main problems in fitting a V8 into an e30 ( amongst many
) is the brake servo. There is no room at all in the stock location with a great big V8 stuck in there now.

So main options to to extend a pushrod and place the servo behind the headlight. Not a great solution as the rod will have a tendency to flex under hard breaking, it also looks messy

Another way to go is the hydraulic system from a V8 e34 or e28. It's a bit complicated for my liking for a braking system

A pedal box from the likes of tilton works well but you would loose servo assistance which I didn't want

The servo can also be placed in the battery tray position but I can't see a good way of making a linkage that will push in a straight plane to the servo
My preferred method is to mount the servo behind the glove box
Thanks to Dave the goat on the zone for this idea
Here is the original bracket that mounts the servo through the bulkhead

Make a plate to now mount it at 90 deg from original position

Then reinforce it to stop any flexing



Now a Clio servo is used as it is much smaller then the e30 servo as it has a dual diaphragm

Mounted in position


The fork of the servo has to be drilled and a new arm has to be welded to the swivel arm to push in the right position

Here it is bolted into another e30 I have lying around



Now I need to get a golf master cylinder as its nice and short and make up some kind of remote reservoir for it. Then it's another job off the long list
Another week another bit of progress.
One of the main problems in fitting a V8 into an e30 ( amongst many

So main options to to extend a pushrod and place the servo behind the headlight. Not a great solution as the rod will have a tendency to flex under hard breaking, it also looks messy

Another way to go is the hydraulic system from a V8 e34 or e28. It's a bit complicated for my liking for a braking system

A pedal box from the likes of tilton works well but you would loose servo assistance which I didn't want

The servo can also be placed in the battery tray position but I can't see a good way of making a linkage that will push in a straight plane to the servo
My preferred method is to mount the servo behind the glove box
Thanks to Dave the goat on the zone for this idea
Here is the original bracket that mounts the servo through the bulkhead

Make a plate to now mount it at 90 deg from original position

Then reinforce it to stop any flexing



Now a Clio servo is used as it is much smaller then the e30 servo as it has a dual diaphragm

Mounted in position


The fork of the servo has to be drilled and a new arm has to be welded to the swivel arm to push in the right position

Here it is bolted into another e30 I have lying around



Now I need to get a golf master cylinder as its nice and short and make up some kind of remote reservoir for it. Then it's another job off the long list
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davethegoat
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Nicely done Dave.
The rear upper bolts were a touch of a pain to get in my mount. Your design looks like it might be a little better in that respect.
I used VW Beetle elbows in the top of a VW Sharan (25mm) master cylinder IIRC. Are you going to have a shortened glove box in there?
Cheers. Dave.
The rear upper bolts were a touch of a pain to get in my mount. Your design looks like it might be a little better in that respect.
I used VW Beetle elbows in the top of a VW Sharan (25mm) master cylinder IIRC. Are you going to have a shortened glove box in there?
Cheers. Dave.
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Demlotcrew
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Why not just use a remote servo and save the passengers ankles?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MG-NEW-LOCKHE ... 589681ff5c
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MG-NEW-LOCKHE ... 589681ff5c
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DavesM3
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Thanks Dave , yes the bolts are easy to get to this way,thanks for the heads up on the servo and the elbows, where did you get them. Do you have any part no's ?davethegoat wrote:Nicely done Dave.![]()
The rear upper bolts were a touch of a pain to get in my mount. Your design looks like it might be a little better in that respect.
I used VW Beetle elbows in the top of a VW Sharan (25mm) master cylinder IIRC. Are you going to have a shortened glove box in there?
Cheers. Dave.
Not sure what I will do with the glovebox,might just fit it permanently
Thank Dave
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DavesM3
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Hi Andrew , don't know much about those remote servos, think I would prefer to stay with a conventional one for such an important safety item. Also you would need to find somewhere anyhow to fit thatDemlotcrew wrote:Why not just use a remote servo and save the passengers ankles?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MG-NEW-LOCKHE ... 589681ff5c
Andrew
Thanks dave
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davethegoat
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I bought the elbows off fleabay Dave.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Brake-master- ... 3f1e47cd5a
I looked into using a remote servo Andrew. The only place I could see to mount one would be in the boot. The dual circuit ones are around £300 IIRC, the single circuit ones are cheaper, but (obviously) 2 would be needed (plus the extra plumbing.
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Clearance for the passenger's legs/ankles isn't actually as bad as it looks TBH.
That vent gauge looks smart Dave!
Cheers. Dave.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Brake-master- ... 3f1e47cd5a
I looked into using a remote servo Andrew. The only place I could see to mount one would be in the boot. The dual circuit ones are around £300 IIRC, the single circuit ones are cheaper, but (obviously) 2 would be needed (plus the extra plumbing.
Clearance for the passenger's legs/ankles isn't actually as bad as it looks TBH.
That vent gauge looks smart Dave!
Cheers. Dave.
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saloon591
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Mk1 corsa servos are compact units the servo mounts flat with the resovoir and master cyl on top the brake pedal is all integrated into it as well.
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DavesM3
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Thanks Davedavethegoat wrote:I bought the elbows off fleabay Dave.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Brake-master- ... 3f1e47cd5a
That vent gauge looks smart Dave!![]()
Cheers. Dave.
Postman arrived with these during the week


Fook me it was hard taking a grinder to brand new m3 quarters

And after

Leftovers

Cut another bit out of the shell to see how things line up

Will there be anything left !!!

Only finding more problems for the moment
The new quarter meets the pocket much higher up and further in so I will probably have to cut away part of the pocket and make something between the 2
Another problem is that the m3 outer wheel well is from a 2 door car and is now coming into contact with the rear door

Wheelwell has to go forward about an inch and also up about the same so I will have to cut a lump out of the wheel well
Oh the joys
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Any updates on this Dave 
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I hope so, such an epic project.
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This is awesome.
Are you planning on keeping the rear doors functional?
Are you planning on keeping the rear doors functional?
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This ones been dead for nearly a year now... I hope he comes back
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G-Bear wrote:This ones been dead for nearly a year now
I was getting excited reading the first few pages.
I hope this has been finished.
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found another one on google:


there was a thread on here a while ago about the white one in a garage near Bournemouth


there was a thread on here a while ago about the white one in a garage near Bournemouth
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that blue one looks awesome
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agreed 

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DavesM3
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There has been no progress since the last update due to work commitments.
Hope to get back at it in the next 2 months
Hope to get back at it in the next 2 months
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That blue one is amazing. Stumbled across the build thread for it on another forum. The interior and everything is perfect.
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Get rid of the schnizter stripes snd other gimmicks and throw dome silver wheels on and the blue one is bang on.
Would benefit from a tech 2 rear spoiler or something too
Would benefit from a tech 2 rear spoiler or something too
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There was hell up about that blue car on the american forums.
The builder seems to be quite frowned upon for his customer service shall we say.
The builder seems to be quite frowned upon for his customer service shall we say.
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Impressive....looking forward to updates!
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Looking forward to the next update Dave!
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DavesM3
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So a bit of an update at long last.

Cut a good lump from the m3 wheelarch to make room to work with the 4 door

That's better

Still in the way though

More cutting

How much further the m3 wheelwell comes out

And the difference from the facelift quarter and pocket. Lots more fun.

Looking better all the same

Make a pocket in wheelwell

Primed


That's much better

Gonna be lots of work ahead

With m3 skirt for fitment

More cutting. Will there be anything left.

Cut a good lump from the m3 wheelarch to make room to work with the 4 door

That's better

Still in the way though

More cutting

How much further the m3 wheelwell comes out

And the difference from the facelift quarter and pocket. Lots more fun.

Looking better all the same

Make a pocket in wheelwell

Primed


That's much better

Gonna be lots of work ahead

With m3 skirt for fitment

More cutting. Will there be anything left.
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Been wanting to get my dad a touring for ages for a prodject but simply doesnt have the time.. or a touring lol. Good to see someone working on one. Nice work buddy!
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Look forward to seeing this finished!
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Good to see you're still at it..
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keep the updates coming 

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Great progress 
I'll check with the manager
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Great work 
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