New member's e30 drifter!

[djhanks]

What works involved in getting the 46 arms to fit onto the e30's?
I had that conversion on my e36 and worked well

[TommyM]

Im unsure yet as ive not fitted them but few of my mates have them on there e36's and i think its much the same work involved using the e30-e36 lollipop bushes onto the e46 arms. Unsure when il get round to it but il report back when i do

[tomislav]

Ah awesome advice there mate!
I'll get into looking at them then I think.
I used Jom 1s on my old e36 and within a few months of abuse on the road they ended up leaking fluids.

As with 'proper coilovers' do they fit in the same place or are the needed to have special fabrication done to the chassis to take them?

Any specific top mounts you recommend or?...

Wicked for the rack reccomendation too, I'm currently using the e36 with rack spacers

Yeah JOMs are proper shite fella, surprised they lasted that long lol.

The proper coilys bolt in where normally just the shock absorber would be on the rear. Shouldnt really need any mods tho they might slightly foul the fuel tank breather cover on the drivers side rear, a hammer can fix that lol.

E36 rack is nearly as good as the clubsport so thats cool.

Top mount wise, i was running the Gaz eccentric top mounts, cost about £110+vat, the rpm style one are good but not cheap. To be honest, as long as you can dial in some camber you should be ok, castor angle can be increased by using e30 m3 offset bushes on the lower arms

[djhanks]

Wicked for the information there.
I know where my next paydays going

Updates soon to follow

[kangman]

Was an e30 a good choice for a beginner drift car? or if you could go back would you have got something different??

[djhanks]

In all honesty, I have found the n/a engine really good to get the basics and learning how to make it work without the use of boost.
I drove my friends 200sx and was MUCH easier to drift, but, have to keep it on boost to drift and I found it hard to straighten up without snatching viciously.

[pac1982]

why dont people stick to learning to drift in a battered old Ford Sierra, dont get me wrong i quite like the concept of drifting but ruining a perfectly good car it just crazy

[kangman]

why dont people stick to learning to drift in a battered old Ford Sierra, dont get me wrong i quite like the concept of drifting but ruining a perfectly good car it just crazy

I dont see a problem with it, these people aren't bmw enthusiast their more drift enthusiasts. So the more e30s they drift the more parts come available, and they sell them cheap as they want a quick sale and sometimes don't know the value of the items.

The more e30s that get trashed drifting, the less e30s there are on the road and rarer my e30 becomes

I want to do a bit of this drifting milarkey and i have always wanted to go crazy on a e30, matt paint job, roll cage, wacky coloured wheels and rivet some wide arches on it. But saying that if i was on the look out for an e30 drift turd i wouldn't be looking to buy to a rotten e30 to keep the e30 'community' happy, i'd be looking for the best one my money could buy

[kangman]

In all honesty, I have found the n/a engine really good to get the basics and learning how to make it work without the use of boost.
I drove my friends 200sx and was MUCH easier to drift, but, have to keep it on boost to drift and I found it hard to straighten up without snatching viciously.

I had a 200sx for a few days had a crappy auto box tho . was pretty fast but i was only opening the taps on clear straights and not attempting to drift it. When you have to start replacing turbos and other stuff the £££'s start racking up. With an e30 its do i fix the engine or just buy another block for £300 and stick it in there.

Seems like a e30 is a great starter drifter plus you can always stick a jap turbo block in it

[BATTS91]

Go Hard Or Go Home !!

Who cares if its a rusty shitter or not ! Lets face it you wouldnt want a rusty fooked turd being pushed to its limits on a track falling apart now would you !

Atlest the lads skidding on a track ;) keep on it lad practice practice .

[pac1982]

The more e30s that get trashed drifting, the less e30s there are on the road and rarer my e30 becomes

buy

You wont be saying that when you want/need to replace your current E30 should the worst happen and you have to pay silly money for one

[kangman]

The more e30s that get trashed drifting, the less e30s there are on the road and rarer my e30 becomes

buy

You wont be saying that when you want/need to replace your current E30 should the worst happen and you have to pay silly money for one

Very true but thats when i throw in the towel and call it a day with owning an e30

[djhanks]

why dont people stick to learning to drift in a battered old Ford Sierra, dont get me wrong i quite like the concept of drifting but ruining a perfectly good car it just crazy

The main reason is because it can drift and drifts well.
It stands out as not many people drift e30's so it looks cool IMO.

[djhanks]

In all honesty, I have found the n/a engine really good to get the basics and learning how to make it work without the use of boost.
I drove my friends 200sx and was MUCH easier to drift, but, have to keep it on boost to drift and I found it hard to straighten up without snatching viciously.

I had a 200sx for a few days had a crappy auto box tho . was pretty fast but i was only opening the taps on clear straights and not attempting to drift it. When you have to start replacing turbos and other stuff the £££'s start racking up. With an e30 its do i fix the engine or just buy another block for £300 and stick it in there.

Seems like a e30 is a great starter drifter plus you can always stick a jap turbo block in it

Give it 12 months and it'll be a completely new car!
Engine wide been toying with an m20 turbo, v8 or sr20det conversion

[djhanks]

Go Hard Or Go Home !!

Who cares if its a rusty shitter or not ! Lets face it you wouldnt want a rusty fooked turd being pushed to its limits on a track falling apart now would you !

Atlest the lads skidding on a track ;) keep on it lad practice practice .

Exactly why I brought a nice tidy 1, to do 70mph sideways and that it's a lot of shell and chassis strain so it pays not to be wrecked.

Cheers mate

[Dominitry]

Why is the dash out? Did you not have one with the car?

[djhanks]

Nope car came without 1.
My pal offered me 1 earlier now you've mentioned that but it's just adding more weight in my eyes

[BATTS91]

A dash isnt going to make a difference on weight . Only more on making insurance void due to sharp objects . Just like no door cards as someone i know discovered .

As for the previous comment i just see about get a sierra . Try finding one . .

I have an e30 for drifting but yet i have a touring which im rather anal an oem ish about so not all drifters ar cocks !
To anyone who isn't ! Treat the lad with respect, its his car and if he wants to actually drive and use his car to practice in a very fast growing Motorsport ( that is actually televised btw)then let him.

[djhanks]

A dash isnt going to make a difference on weight . Only more on making insurance void due to sharp objects . Just like no door cards as someone i know discovered .

As for the previous comment i just see about get a sierra . Try finding one . .

I have an e30 for drifting but yet i have a touring which im rather anal an oem ish about so not all drifters ar cocks !
To anyone who isn't ! Treat the lad with respect, its his car and if he wants to actually drive and use his car to practice in a very fast growing Motorsport ( that is actually televised btw)then let him.

My mate owns a sierra and he said there expensive to find a decent 1 with a good engine.

You got a thread to your drifter build mate?

Incase people wonder, I've also got an VW Golf mk4 daily on x5 alloys and that's my pride and joy so I can see where people are coming from about how it looks like "I'm trashing it"

[yung-gun]

Body work on mine is horrific, however it's solid underneath and i love drifting it. Hell if i had a Mk1 escort, i'd do the same to that.


End of the day it's all about personal preference

[Rich320I]

Body work on mine is horrific, however it's solid underneath and i love drifting it. Hell if i had a Mk1 escort, i'd do the same to that.


End of the day it's all about personal preference

thankfully MK1 escorts are out of a drifters price bracket, with luck e30s will go that way aswell

[djhanks]

Yeah my chassis underneath and in the bay is mint, no significant rust issue.
Id love a mk1 escort!
As for them been too pricey; I know 2 lads that drift the HELL outta a mk1 and a mk2, the mk2's running just over 550bhp and the mk1 is a Burton 2.0ltr Pinto on t/b's

[Phill172]

why dont people stick to learning to drift in a battered old Ford Sierra, dont get me wrong i quite like the concept of drifting but ruining a perfectly good car it just crazy

Because a E30 is such a better car to use for drifting then a sierra.
More part availability, spare parts are easy to come by, more powerful engines, easy upgrades/engines and my pure hatred for Fords

Going back a while on your thread, if you want E46 arms then you need to have a 5 x 120 setup. I run E46 arms on my V8, they are good gives a much better feel upfront and enables some more lock.
You will need castor/camber top mounts and a few days of drifting to get it set just how you like it. My car suffered loads with no self centering until I sorted out the geo.

Lob any e36 steering rack in there and it will be a million times better then a e30 one!

Other then that have fun!

[djhanks]

why dont people stick to learning to drift in a battered old Ford Sierra, dont get me wrong i quite like the concept of drifting but ruining a perfectly good car it just crazy

Because a E30 is such a better car to use for drifting then a sierra.
More part availability, spare parts are easy to come by, more powerful engines, easy upgrades/engines and my pure hatred for Fords

Going back a while on your thread, if you want E46 arms then you need to have a 5 x 120 setup. I run E46 arms on my V8, they are good gives a much better feel upfront and enables some more lock.
You will need castor/camber top mounts and a few days of drifting to get it set just how you like it. My car suffered loads with no self centering until I sorted out the geo.

Lob any e36 steering rack in there and it will be a million times better then a e30 one!

Other then that have fun!

Cheers for that pal.
Other then converting the hubs to 5x120 is there anything else that needs modifying or other bits changed over?
I've seen adjustable top mounts on eBay but there the polish 1s so I don't know how people rate them, any suggestions?

[Phill172]

To 5 stud you will need, e36 coilovers as with just struts it will sit a bit odd unless you spend a lot of time with springs
top mounts (as iirc the e36 has a differant size shaft)
E36 Hubs and brakes and also new brake lines

It can be done cheap and is pretty easy you just need to hunt out the parts

[djhanks]

Wicked for that mate, I may end up doing that in the near future .