H&R Cupkit OR just springs??

Post Tue Jan 03, 2006 10:21 pm

Guys,money could be a problem after all so my question is:

(For my 325 CAB on standard shocks and springs)

Could i get away with using just the H&R springs with my standard shocks?

What would be the noticible difference in not using the H&R cup setup?

If im using standard shocks,is there a better option than H&R?

I dont mind forking out Ãƒ”šÃ‚£170 for the springs but i dont want a hard jumpy ride..i need some advice here guys before i purchase these

thks

Post Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:39 am

imo always springs AND shocks together

Post Wed Jan 04, 2006 1:26 pm

I have the H&R Sport springs which I got before I upgraded my dampers.

The ride quality was fine with the standard dampers, in fact it was nice. Trouble is it was underdamped a bit so would kind of pogo,not terrible but you'll notice your head lights 'bouncing' at night and the handling will suffer.

You should definately think about at least a budget up-rated damper kit.

The H&R cup kit is supposed to have excellent dampers but lowers the car to a ridiculous degree. Have you ever seen an e30 at 60mm lower? The rear semi trailing arms go to a mental ammount of rear camber and toe.. Probably wears rear tyres like a mofo.

I have the 40mm sports springs and they lower the car as much as is possible useable (from a handling point of view I'd say its a little low but from the looks point of view its perfect). I really wouldn't reccomend going lower. I couldn't get my tracking done the other day because they couldn't get the gauges over the rear wheels.

Try H&R sports springs and Gaz dampers. Good quality units that are cheap and re-buildable..

Jai

Post Wed Jan 04, 2006 2:15 pm

h&r only drops 40 at the rear and is know to give superb handling..

Post Wed Jan 04, 2006 2:16 pm

do the whole cup kit!

Post Wed Jan 04, 2006 4:51 pm

Isn't there a 35mm H&R kit? Wouldn't that be the best of both worlds?

Post Wed Jan 04, 2006 4:53 pm

TheDutch wrote:Isn't there a 35mm H&R kit? Wouldn't that be the best of both worlds?

yeh but its not as good for hard driving as the cup kit havin driven both

Post Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:24 pm

Jhonno wrote:h&r only drops 40 at the rear and is know to give superb handling..

does it f**k i went from 35mm h&R springs to the cupkit 60/40 springs and the arse end is on the floor and the so is the front. As said the neggy camber is silly on the back and so is the toe.

But the handling well what can i say! but to be honest is not leaps and bounds over the normal 35mm h&R springs. looks better though!

Post Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:29 pm

35mm HnR Springs and inverted bilstein dampers

iv been told this is the best setup?

Post Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:31 pm

certainly is for road use and a car which handles nicely on track

Post Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:33 pm

360 just for dampers though!

Post Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:38 pm

worth every penny! thats why theres only 3 of us on the zone with these shocks! And the trump card for me is they match to ANY springs u fit to them. Life time warranty. Need i go on?

Post Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:40 pm

whos got them then?

you demlot and ian 332 sport?

im saving simon dont you worry!

Post Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:45 pm

tis correct! they have 35mm springs though

Post Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:15 pm

so do you, just not on at the mo!!

i swear richard (touringdaddy) said that he was running inverted billies?

Post Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:16 pm

so it is bilstein sport shocks (because there are aswell normal and heavy duty) + H&R springs ?

what about coilover springs over bilstein shocks?

check this out... seems quite cheap... and adjustable...
http://cgi.ebay.com/Race-Coilover-BMW-E ... dZViewItem

Post Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:19 pm

i have always been told that coilovers are too harsh for road use

plus would you really ever adjust them?

i spose for a road/track car rolled into one coilovers would be ok?

iv seen HnR n Bilstein ones on the wrong side of a grand though!

Post Thu Jan 05, 2006 12:50 am

Mops wrote:so it is bilstein sport shocks (because there are aswell normal and heavy duty) + H&R springs ?

what about coilover springs over bilstein shocks?

check this out... seems quite cheap... and adjustable...
http://cgi.ebay.com/Race-Coilover-BMW-E ... dZViewItem

Dont waste your money, theyre not actually coilovers.

Post Thu Jan 05, 2006 1:15 pm

I'm hoping to upgrade to the inverted M3 billie inserts (which are the same part no as the 325 one I think).

They seem to offer different ones at motorsport world. Whatever - I'll just go for the shortened inverted ones yea?

Is this set up nice for everyday then? Whats the handling balance like? I like the ride quality I have ATM, bit harsh because of the lowered springs and poly bushes all round.

At the moment I have STD M3 front dampers and Koni adjustables on the rear which I can't seem to adjust. Thus the car is VERY tail happy in the wet.

Fun though!

Jai