Alpina B10 Bi turbo, this car is haunting me 11/2/15

[jonnie]

Really like this Si, might have to pop along to the next Gford meet, just to see it.

[Simon13]

please do Jonnie, not sure when it will be running yet. As I've had to bite the bullet and order some more bits from Alpina which take a good 2 weeks IF the part is in stock. Crazy system they have going on

Some bits of note as I've had a couple of eves after work at it





Clutch can be bolted on, new disc doesn't say which side is gearbox which is handy. It does only fit one way round though!

The pressure plate disc is a dark colour? hinting at its power to suppress the mighty torque? Normally they are shiney




Trevor kindly repainted theses bits and the oil filter housing cap




Inlet built back up and ready to bolt back on engine, injectors have been refurbed. Their flow rate was not far off normal but the spray pattern was beginning to suffer. New hoses for the various bits hanging off it.






Doing the sump gasket is a must at this stage. Its all very clean looking. Didn't take much to clean the sump up in the parts washer





I've been giving the mill a bit of a clean up while its out.







Current mess, its orgainised really!






If I said these 10 new nuts where £46 delivered and that's the cheapest deal I could find!

For the turbo area. To replace lost, missing, damaged ones.

I've bit the bullet and ordered some various studs from alpine for a lot of monies! So that's going to hold me up from getting turbos back on just yet.

Still plenty to do!

[jimbom30cab]

Si, that rocker cover and inlet man look the business, RESPECT !!

i'll dream about you accidently giving me the wrong one back and saying " its ok jim you can keep the ALPINA cam cover".....bugger i just woke up...

love the updates.

[B7]

I'm not happy with the cam cover if I'm honest. It fought me all the way. I've said to Si, bolt it on, see how it looks and if we need to go again, I'll strip it right back and start again.

Getting close now this car. gonna be epic!

[E30BeemerLad]

Is it me or is that flywheel ridiculously thick?

[jimbom30cab]

I'm not happy with the cam cover if I'm honest. It fought me all the way. I've said to Si, bolt it on, see how it looks and if we need to go again, I'll strip it right back and start again.

lovely work Trevor

[snakebrain]

Easily the most exciting thread on the site at the minute. The epicness just keeps building!

[Demlotcrew]

Silver plated no less

[hennared323i]

Just had a price back for the 718 Inconel Studs, you are looking at £25 each with a 3 week build time.

I wonder if Winx can get a better price?

Seems steep although inconel is a proper bastar* to machine - can you send me the length, diameter and thread pitch - I have a couple of old contacts in the oil industry

Simon13 - respect, epic thread

[Simon13]

I got a free afternoon today which seems to be rare at the moment!




they're imaginative when it comes to the engine numbers! Car no. 445 will have engine number...... makes sense to be fair





Heads stamped up from alpina, shows its the original head looking at the casting date





Shiney inlet back on, the lower nuts you need to be special to get to them, no room





Rocker on, I bought new domed nuts, but they aren't very shiney like the originals were. Any ideas where I can get better ones?






This is the breather pipe off the rocker, its all alpina stylee here, I ordered the pipe to replace this previous effort. It was £18 pound though






Heres the rear turbo all built up and ready to bolt on






Front turbo bare






Heres the gasket that was missing from both turbos from when I stripped it down. Who ever was here last time didn't bother with them and it was blowing before, so they must be needed!





bolted on






oil return pipe (to block) on





All built up, oil feed and coolant pipes bolted on. I can't go any further as i'm waiting for studs from Alpina now to replace some bent/damaged ones.

Once they arrive I can bolt these two badboys back on






New centre bearing mount, the bearing itself is fine and also as said before a unique item, you can buy a bearing in this size but its got smaller bearings! Alpina only






Heres the prop now ready to go back on when the time is right. This is also unique to the bi-turbo also. Luckily the one knackered part was the bmw one! £11 cheapest fix on the car so far






this is the gearbox input oil seal. Which on intial looking appeared alpina only, as they list their own part number for it. Its NLA. But the e34 M5 one isn't, after checking the sizes they're the same. So same as the getrag 280 gearbox, phew




Been leaking some time I would guess





A good clean out,

Once I have the seal I can bolt the box back onto the engine ready for the re install

Light is appearing!!

[TPS]

Looking good Simon

[B7]

good work Si.

[Speedtouch]

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Rocker on, I bought new domed nuts, but they aren't very shiney like the originals were. Any ideas where I can get better ones?

I bought these stainless steel dome ones off E-bay for my 325iSE, which were quite good, although it did say they could be polished if you wanted a mirror finish, so I guess you could do that to your nuts if you felt so inclined.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Stainless-Roc ... _781wt_934

[daimlerman]

This thread demonstrates perfectly that expensive cars bought for beer money still need loadsofmoney spent to keep them running properly.

All credit to Simon for biting a very costly bullet to get this more door back into top condition.

[Demlotcrew]

What do you class as beer money?

[daimlerman]

What do you class as beer money?

Good point...

Perhaps a car that cost £50k+ when new,bought today for less than £5k....
So 10% or so of starting price.

Thinking about this,I guess that all E30's drop into this catagory!

[Demlotcrew]

If Simon bought that B10 for five thousand pounds, he did well! I never realised they were so cheap.

[snakebrain]

It's worth 5 grand without this bit...

[Simon13]

it cost more than £5000 to buy! It was a bargain in terms of current market values. Which have dipped into banger money. Which probably explains the high survival rate i'd say as only tools with money can buy one in some respect. They've not gone the way of say, e36 m3, e46 m3 to some extent and the e39 m5.

[Demlotcrew]

I would also guess these were much more than fifty grand new, maybe closer to seventy five?

[Speedtouch]

Base price new was 146,800DM, which equates to £64,216.

[daimlerman]

Base price new was 146,800DM, which equates to £64,216.

So on that basis,using my 10% of purchase price formula,puts this into 'beer money' at about £6.5k....

To my way of thinking,that's more Bourdoux money than beer money!

Much respect,though,to Simon for taking this on and bringing it back to how it should be.

[Demlotcrew]

I think Simons has to be closer to seventy as its a nice spec with electric seats too if im not mistaken?

I dont think Simon paid six and a half for it, why do you think today these are only worth 10% of their price when new?

[SteSE]

They are £15k+ for a nice one!

[Simon13]

holy moly, that's an epic amount I never knew that! in 1992 what kind of house would that of bought in recession hit England forum old timers? I was 10 in 92

[daimlerman]

holy moly, that's an epic amount I never knew that! in 1992 what kind of house would that of bought in recession hit England forum old timers? I was 10 in 92

My home here in Lincoln cost me £3000 in 1975,or some time before you became even a twinkle in your dad's eye....London area prices would be somewhat higher,I guess.

Old cars always throw a swerve ball at some point,I've spent the day in Norfolk working with an expert on my current project(a 1952 wooden Broads cruiser)and yes,you are right,we stripped 20' of planking off the underside to reveal further,well hidden,rot in the structural timber....at least my issues here are almost cheap compared to an Alpina clutch!

[Simon13]

my gran/grandad bought their 3 bed semi house brand new in Farnborough in 1960 for £3000 malco!

gran bless her is still living there.

I reckon it would buy a lot, I seem to remember a mate buying a flat in the late late 90's for 60k in Bracknell.

[daimlerman]

my gran/grandad bought their 3 bed semi house brand new in Farnborough in 1960 for £3000 malco!

gran bless her is still living there.

I reckon it would buy a lot, I seem to remember a mate buying a flat in the late late 90's for 60k in Bracknell.

You will know Farnborough values better then the rest of us,I would guess at a ballpark £300k?
Get round there and do her shopping!

[B7]

Si, Fact, my house was £82k in Aug 1993 to give you some idea.

[Blitz]

Just recently been uploaded

E46 M3 vs E34 B10 BiTurbo

[Simon13]

well that bi-turbo wasn't running right!

we know other wise mo!

[Demlotcrew]

Where the run with the boost turned up?

[Simon13]

in terms of options i'd of thought the buffalo leather with alpine rhoms in the seats would of been extra. The recaro seats were standard on them in cloth. You had to option bmw's sport seats which a few have like on of petes old ones.

electric blind an extra? along with the door blinds? heated seats at a guess and the sunroof

Anyhow look what turned up for a pretty penny this week




3 studs, £97 please






2 smaller studs were for the front manifold





Front turbo built up ready to go






Rear turbo back on.....






front one on, so i'm really cooking on gas now. The gearbox and starter can be bolted on and the whole lot re fitted into the car!

Bolting the turbos and pipework back on was fiddley with it hanging in the air. I'm not sure how I unbolted them on my driveway before on a frosty afternoon/evening!


I stopped there as I couldn't remember how all the heat shields went and the pipework!

This weekend should see some real progress!

[Rtaylor2208]

3 studs, £97 please

Ouch, thats horrific for 3 small bits of metal. But a necessary evil. Hope you get this all back together before your kid arrives otherwise it will take years to get road worthy again.

[Simon13]

this car is bringing baby and child home from hospital!