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Post Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:42 pm

Hi folks thinking about undersealing my car soon want paint on but want one that dries. Looked at hammerite but reveiws say it stays sticky can any of you recommend a decent paint on underseal :D
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Post Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:46 pm

Dinitrol or Dynax seem to be the most raved about products mate :D
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Post Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:56 pm

DON'T EVER USE BITUMEN TYPE UNDERSEALS ON A BMW!!!!!!!!! This stuff is intended to protect bridge dodging scrap of 'other makes' from the prying eyes of MOT testers for a couple more years. After that time, it lifts, traps moisture behind it, and reduces the vehicle in question to orange dust in a very short time.
The underside of BMWs should be protected with polyurethane sealer/ stone chip/ cavity wax as appropriate to the area in question.
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Post Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:40 pm

Is dinitrol or dynax paint on and can you purchase this at halfords
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Post Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:47 pm

http://www.bilthamber.com/dynax-s50

dynax is a spray, iv used it myself from the local motorfactors. you could check halfords website, dynax is really good. iv not used dinitrol myself.
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Post Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:12 pm

Brianmoooore wrote:DON'T EVER USE BITUMEN TYPE UNDERSEALS ON A BMW!!!!!!!!! This stuff is intended to protect bridge dodging scrap of 'other makes' from the prying eyes of MOT testers for a couple more years. After that time, it lifts, traps moisture behind it, and reduces the vehicle in question to orange dust in a very short time.
The underside of BMWs should be protected with polyurethane sealer/ stone chip/ cavity wax as appropriate to the area in question.
Brian any particular products you would recommend? I too could do with touching up some of the soft rubbery underseal on my can where it has started to come away from having the car up on jacks and stands.
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Post Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:26 pm

really if its comming away, you should strip areas right back and have a good rust hunt, thats where it hides..
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Post Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:38 pm

Rich320I wrote:http://www.bilthamber.com/dynax-s50

dynax is a spray, iv used it myself from the local motorfactors. you could check halfords website, dynax is really good. iv not used dinitrol myself.
S50 is a cavity wax, you want the UB or UC I think, come in 1L pots.
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Post Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:02 pm

A two pack polyurethane stuff made by 3M, that needs its own special spray gun is the nearest thing I know of to the original, but for small touch ups, brush on polyurethane seam sealer will do the job. I've even used polyurethane sealant, such as Tigerseal in an emergency, blending and shaping it in with a brush and white spirit.
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Post Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:14 pm

Brianmoooore wrote:I've even used polyurethane sealant, such as Tigerseal in an emergency, blending and shaping it in with a brush and white spirit.
I can't even begin to imagine the mess that made, even with the thinners.
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Post Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:59 pm

Ive just used the dinitrol 4941 black chassis wax, easy to apply with a schultz gun and compressor, seems really good and hardwearing but suppose time will tell.. :eek:
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Post Thu Mar 21, 2013 8:00 pm

capnmchl wrote:
Brianmoooore wrote:I've even used polyurethane sealant, such as Tigerseal in an emergency, blending and shaping it in with a brush and white spirit.
I can't even begin to imagine the mess that made, even with the thinners.
No mess at all! Just blend it in with a small brush and/or spatula wetted with white spirit, before the stuff starts to cure.
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Post Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:11 pm

Fair enough. Most of my experiences with tiger seal have usually left me looking like a I have the plague for a week.
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Post Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:07 pm

3m 08800 sachets are what you want (Brian mentions them above). XWorks used it on his epic M3 resto and I have used on my touring project with great results.
It comes out grey but you could paint it beiege if you wanted it to look original I guess...

This is what it looks like when applied:
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Post Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:21 pm

how does that work then? i see they sell a gun, but mention no gun cleaning :?

does the metal sachet contain a nozzle you connect to the gun?

also, the sachets look pretty small at 250ml, how many would you need to coat something like an e30 floor pan?
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Post Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:29 pm

The sachets have nozzles, which clip on to the gun. If you are mean with coating thickness 1 sachet will just cover an arch, I manage around 2/3rds of an arch on average. It does get very expensive when you start doing the whole car! :o: :o:
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Post Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:31 pm

Winx, that looks great. And thanks Brian for responding. The two bits I have are literally a couple of inches long on the long rail like bits on the front of the floor pan. Basically been ham fisted with the jack and the fact the jack pad is not flat has started to scrape away the underseal.