Chris warburton

Post Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:22 pm

So basically everyone knows Chris is a sound guy, but Kos doesn't like him for whatever reasons so lets slur him down

Can't please all

Post Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:25 pm

SPADGE wrote:
Kos wrote:
Simon13 wrote:thats utter rubbish, this place is big enough for many. He was a good guy
5/6 years ago ther were not that many traders or people breaking e30's

IIRC there was some sort of conflict between him and spadge.

I never dealt with chris on that level but for me, im sure he is a decent enough person buy his moderating style was as bad as wills

Him and tylerma certainly had it in for me along with some others who banned me for 2 years. I will add for the record it was tylerma who was the main man in handling me my ban.
No conflict there really Kos but i'm guessing like me he moved on to pastures new

Shouldn,t you be hard at it selling Fords.
Back to work you lazy coont.

Post Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:55 pm

Chris was ok,
he didn't tolerate most of the fools that the mods do nowadays, I don't think he Liked Adit either !!

Post Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:07 pm

Simon13 wrote:So basically everyone knows Chris is a sound guy, but Kos doesn't like him for whatever reasons so lets slur him down

Can't please all

Can I not express my opinion ? You dish out when you feel like it

He probably is a sound guy but my experiences of him on this forum are quite the opposite

Post Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:22 pm

The last I heard, he was suffering from a Landrover related illness

Post Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:25 pm

Kos wrote:I asked Malcom over PM in a heated exchange " when was the last time you saw your dick you fat bastard"

Must admit that this is a bit of an issue these days.

I tend to work from memory and take a step back,then end up with wet feet!

Post Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:36 pm

I bought an E30 M3 off Chris a good few years ago now and found him a really decent bloke. I've since bought various parts off him for various other E30's and received nothing but a top class service. I hope his site is up and running again soon.

Post Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:01 am

Chris was the first zoner I met face to face after I joined here - fitted a PAS setup to my bronze turd on a freezing March morning on his driveway - top bloke.

Shame he's not still around IMO

Post Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:09 am

Kos wrote:
Simon13 wrote:So basically everyone knows Chris is a sound guy, but Kos doesn't like him for whatever reasons so lets slur him down

Can't please all
Can I not express my opinion ? You dish out when you feel like it

He probably is a sound guy but my experiences of him on this forum are quite the opposite

You can express your opinion but you made a personal attack.

You insulted him and accused him of a vindictive bias...

Kos wrote: I thought he was a tosser, he clearly had it in for a few people

...and that breaks Rule Number 1 of the forum and yet you seem to get away with it. So the moderation style suits you now?

OK, if it's just banter then that may be seen as fine, but this isn't. This is clearly a personal attack.

I miss people like Chris on the forum. I dealt with him on several occasions and he was a credit to the zone.

B7 wrote:We need more people around like Chris. He was a credit to the zone and an honest, easy guy to deal with. Doubt he'd like all the back biting / stabbing and two faced nonsense that goes on now though to be honest.

Agreed!

Post Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:42 am

toby wrote:
Kos wrote:
Simon13 wrote:So basically everyone knows Chris is a sound guy, but Kos doesn't like him for whatever reasons so lets slur him down

Can't please all
Can I not express my opinion ? You dish out when you feel like it

He probably is a sound guy but my experiences of him on this forum are quite the opposite
You can express your opinion but you made a personal attack.

You insulted him and accused him of a vindictive bias...

Kos wrote: I thought he was a tosser, he clearly had it in for a few people
...and that breaks Rule Number 1 of the forum and yet you seem to get away with it. So the moderation style suits you now?

OK, if it's just banter then that may be seen as fine, but this isn't. This is clearly a personal attack.

I miss people like Chris on the forum. I dealt with him on several occasions and he was a credit to the zone.

B7 wrote:We need more people around like Chris. He was a credit to the zone and an honest, easy guy to deal with. Doubt he'd like all the back biting / stabbing and two faced nonsense that goes on now though to be honest.
Agreed!

Hmmmm

One presumes that the user 'Kos' is bumming at least one mod....

Post Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:06 pm

Toby, i had one dealing with chris. i rang him up after an incident on the forum to have a chat. i cant remember the ins and outs of the conversation, but what i do remember is him very dismissive of my thoughts & opinions. he didnt like it when i said there was conflict if interest with him trading and being a mod/team member and calling me an idiot.
i dont mind being called an idiot, i've been called worse.

but that single event with him and his moderating style made me think he was a tosser. now, read what i have said. "i thought he was a tosser" its an expression of a past thought. if i said "he is a tosser" then it is is current statement.

in no way shape of form is it a personal attack, just an opinion based on my experiences with him

i remember a time when all the breakers like magpie, adit were all of a sudden tagged with "CAUTION unapproved trader". no PM's no warning, no invitation to pay as a trader.

so, back to the tosser comment. comments like that are posted daily. no wanting to pick on anyone in particular but this was said the other day

recently said wrote:
you're a knob

that person went to to make a personal attack on the same persons car.

no one got banned........... no one should be banned for that either. its all opinions and with out them any forum is wasted and boring

does the current moderating style suit me, not always but 90% is fine. i know i will not get on with every one, i know some people hate me, some people dont want to publicly associate with me (then again who want to be associated with a depraved individual like me) i also have some very close friends through this forum. however (for the benefit of malcom) we dont bum each other, we just wife/girlfriend swap and go dogging and get involved in other depraved sexual activity

Post Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:26 pm

There are many people not satisfied with the moderation of the forum. We have all relatively recently agreed to the rules at the login stage and yet they don't seem to exist.

Kos, I agree that there are lots of insults on the zone. I'm not singling you out by the way.

I disagree that calling someone 'a tosser' isn't a personal attack. It is an insult.
(It's not a very offensive swear word or anything like that but it's still an attack.)
An opinion expressed in a defamatory fashion is a personal attack.
The opinion is held and then expressed as an attack.
It's blatantly obvious.

I just want the forum to be a friendlier place and these sort of attacks aren't necessary.
I think these personal attacks are boring, very boring. Keyboard warriors just aren't interesting.

People who are doing interesting stuff to their cars aren't sharing it because there are too many potential insults waiting to be thrown. This is also blatantly obvious!

I'm not the only one who thinks there is too much back biting / stabbing etc. on the zone.

Rule 1. states no personal attacks. Now either this is a rule or it isn't.

It also states 'Feel free to criticise ideas, but not people.' But to say the guy was 'a tosser' and say that 'he clearly had it in for a few people' is a direct accusation against the guy. You are stating that the guy was unfair to others. This is a direct personal attack.

Either there are rules or there aren't rules.

Post Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:35 pm

toby wrote:Either there are rules or there aren't rules.

The rules seem to be completely ignored except when a member or members of the team decide to get rid of someone they dislike, usually for some ridiculously petty reason. Then the rules are iron and unbending.

Post Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:15 am

snakebrain wrote:
toby wrote:Either there are rules or there aren't rules.
The rules seem to be completely ignored except when a member or members of the team decide to get rid of someone they dislike, usually for some ridiculously petty reason. Then the rules are iron and unbending.

Certainly seems to me that some zoner's can get away with writing just what they like and receive 'protection' from the 'team'.
Others receive a ban....

The rules are clear,so why can they not be applied in a fair way to all?

Post Sat Feb 23, 2013 8:58 am

politics.

Post Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:57 pm

toby

the rules here are more like guide lines, thats the way i see it

not sure if you have seen this other thread .........

http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... 10#2564210

Post Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:38 am

What's the deal with Neil McDonald and the Zone ?

Post Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:53 am

pony wrote:What's the deal with Neil McDonald and the Zone ?

Should have asked me a Simon earlier but there is no real issue to be honest

Post Tue Mar 05, 2013 3:34 am

I stumbled on his site by accident a while back, emailed him and got no answer. I eventually called his number from here and he checked the message i sent, gave me instructions on how to pay and i got a very good working jetronic ecu , ignition switch, clock and boot locks from him. Great guy to deal with , didnt know he was still around . I checked his website a few times but didnt find anything else i needed.