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Post Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:03 pm

i saw for sale a few months ago a plug and play cosworth conversion...

im wondering who it was that owned it, or where the thread has gone please?.
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Post Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:05 pm

Was mine. All gone
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Post Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:13 pm

If you're after a thread of one then it might be worth searching for a zoned called fuzzy. I'm sure he had a cosworth powered 30
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Post Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:50 pm

Is fuzzy still about?? What happened to the old fruit?
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Post Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:51 pm

Think he stripped the E30 and bought something else? Could be wrong mind.

Or he got banged up for running over bikers :)
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Post Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:51 pm

Do a 5 pot Volvo converion Ant.
Strong engines with loads of potential :idea:
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Post Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:59 pm

i have been told the ball park cost of a cossie conversion and im not up for that,,, if i wanted to spen that much id go with my original plan of s54...

i want something that doesnt cost the earth, but can return good bhp via boost....

been looking into 18det or sr20det conversions,, im waiting for someone to get back to me with a rough cost analysis, rough guide on parts needed, and if engine mounts and plug and play harness adapters are available to buy made

you may be onto something there tho Tony :!:
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Post Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:16 pm

Rosc0PColtrane wrote:Is fuzzy still about?? What happened to the old fruit?
He pops in every now and then, but the YB touring is no more.

lol at cheap bhp via boost though. Strap a snail to your m52 would be relatively inexpensive
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Post Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:23 pm

m52 setup has been sold Ross, and its not much to lol at really is it..... by cheap via boost i dont mean 50pence mate. but when you consider the average s54 conversion hitting 5 plus grand im more than sure an sr20det conversion can be done for a lot less than that
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Post Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:28 pm

What about an RB25det engine?
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Post Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:31 pm

What's in it right now or just a rolling chassis?

I would be looking at an m50 with a turbo. Look for a thread by Gunni about what power the standard management/headgasket can handle. Would be a cheap way to realise 350+ hp
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Post Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:31 pm

are they the 6 cylinder skyline engine mate?

i like the appeal of a light 4 banger see
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Post Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:33 pm

Yes, they are the 6 cylinder mate. Good engine just a shame they're in a rot box of a shell.

The SR is a very capable engine!
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Post Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:33 pm

What's in it right now or just a rolling chassis?
it is a rolling shell right about now mate, i spent a few hours stripping the interior out today, and investigating the fitting of a wand for obvious use on auto test trials 8)
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Post Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:34 pm

also ross, the price to boost an m50 is thousands 8O
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Post Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:35 pm

The SR is a very capable engine!
from what ive read thus far mate you are right there, that skyline lump, although powerfull would be as bad as having an m50 upfront
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Post Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:37 pm

Depends how you do it. Cheap/homemade manifold, cheap turbo, standard management and a home made exhaust isn't going to cost the earth and I think they can run around 350ish on standard management.
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Post Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:49 pm

around 300-350 is what im aiming for to be honest i reckon that should be more than enough in a stripped e30 shell 8O
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Post Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:54 pm

Turbo M42?

Appletree has about 300 odd from a supercharged M42.
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Post Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:55 pm

i wonder how much that would cost to achieve that power from one of those
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Post Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:03 pm

I would avoid sr20det ,its not a good motor its ok but if you going for a swap its not what i would swap to , i can understand the 4 banger idea but is there that much of a difference if the suspention set up is right and how much weigh difference is there .
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Post Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:07 pm

sunnysr wrote:I would avoid sr20det ,its not a good motor its ok but if you going for a swap its not what i would swap to , i can understand the 4 banger idea but is there that much of a difference if the suspention set up is right and how much weigh difference is there .
And why would you avoid the sr20 motor? Far better than an rb25.
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Post Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:12 pm

and how much weigh difference is there
when compared to the weight of an m20 lots.!
the other advantage from the research ive done so far is the engine is lighter but the gearbox's are heavier..... this will help shift the weight distrabution toward the centre of the car, so more balanced
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Post Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:16 pm

1000bhp+ can be had out of an sr20.

What other engine will make an easy 350bhp without opening it up, at the same weight of an sr.
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Post Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:23 pm

350 on standard internals??
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Post Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:26 pm

e30-dk wrote:350 on standard internals??
dont forget the torque figures as well.
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Post Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:27 pm

e30-dk wrote:350 on standard internals??
I've seen a couple of SRs running around 400hp on standard internals
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Post Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:36 pm

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e30-dk wrote:350 on standard internals??
I've seen a couple of SRs running around 400hp on standard internals
Very true. I was a bit reluctant to say 400 as although there are many out there on 400, I don't know for how long!

I've been in lots of sr engined cars, including an sre30, on track and they're awesome. 2l aluminium block 4 pot engine and they sit in a decent position in the e30. Do some research, lots of sr e30s around :)
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Post Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:38 pm

im on it mate :D
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Post Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:41 pm

I've seen a few at 400hp and a 2 melted pistons. So guess that's around the limit

Never been in an SR E30. But have been in a couple of M50 turboed cars and a RB25 E30. The skyline was absolutely ballastic.

You thought about an LS V8 engine? Alloy block and they're pretty cheap.
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Post Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:50 pm

eko wrote:Do a 5 pot Volvo converion Ant.
Strong engines with loads of potential :idea:
Looking at this at the moment, not straightforward by any means and not as strong as the Saab 4 pots. I've read that 280bhp is the reliable limit of the 5 pot, although others say 300 has been fine on their road cars.
The 5 pot isn't much shorter than an M50 either, it's just the T6 lump with a cylinder chopped off...

Everyone I speak to says go for the Volvo T6 lump, but they are huge for a 6 pot, although mega strong standard internals winkeye
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Post Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:00 pm

i dont want a yank motor in my car thanks lol, i will settle with jap,,,,,,,,,, yank......... hell no 8O
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Post Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:03 pm

e30-dk wrote:i dont want a yank motor in my car thanks lol, i will settle with jap,,,,,,,,,, yank......... hell no 8O

Would have been a shame to 'waste' an LS on a quattroporte ! :)
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Post Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:33 pm

fuk off.!!

its still an e30 :flipbird:
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