Alpina C1 2.3 talk to me

Post Sat Dec 08, 2012 3:42 pm

Hi gents i've come across an old Alpina C1 2.3 and its been stood since 1991! The gent tells me that its in dolphin grey and its a 4 door thats all i know about it what do you reckon i should offer him? Was dolphin available on a C1? I'm going back next saturday to have a look at it as its under a big car cover at the moment. Thanks in advance.

Post Sat Dec 08, 2012 3:49 pm

Its a four door and it has been stood for over twenty years = £140 per ton + any morsels that may have survived .

Post Sat Dec 08, 2012 3:55 pm

Yea thats what i was thinking Pete but i imagine he's going to want more as he says its one of only three left.... Are the engines worth much?

Post Sat Dec 08, 2012 4:27 pm

At the end of the day, it's a 2.3 - I wouldn't be excited but I'm sure there will be someone somewhere (possibly in Surrey) who is getting moist at the prospect. Either way, take loads of pics and post them up

Post Sat Dec 08, 2012 4:45 pm

Morat wrote:At the end of the day, it's a 2.3 - I wouldn't be excited but I'm sure there will be someone somewhere (possibly in Surrey) who is getting moist at the prospect. Either way, take loads of pics and post them up

& try & get a full spec of everything thats on it (LSD, etc).

Post Sat Dec 08, 2012 4:52 pm

The gent is going to be sending me some pics of it this week so i can then get the reg and try and find out whats what.

Post Sat Dec 08, 2012 5:01 pm

A "barn find". Look forward to seeing the pics.

Post Sat Dec 08, 2012 5:11 pm

Might be worth a word with Richard at BigBavarianBeauties - he had a white two door one IIRC, rotten as fook but still morseled up.

Post Sat Dec 08, 2012 6:40 pm

It won't be Dolphin, but probably Ascot grey (151). If it's been stood since it was 7 years old, it may not be very rusty. The 2.3 mill was handbuilt and it'll have PAS and a slipper, 7J Alpina 'loys all round etc.
If it's not rough, it's worth saving. Not majorly valuable but worth owning. They were all A and B reg.

Post Sat Dec 08, 2012 6:47 pm

Topblag wrote: BigBavarianBeauties

frwhooarrr...

Good luck, sounds interesting.

Post Sat Dec 08, 2012 6:49 pm

Andyboy wrote:It won't be Dolphin, but probably Ascot grey (151). If it's been stood since it was 7 years old, it may not be very rusty. The 2.3 mill was handbuilt and it'll have PAS and a slipper, 7J Alpina 'loys all round etc.
If it's not rough, it's worth saving. Not majorly valuable but worth owning. They were all A and B reg.

feel the knowledge !

Post Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:50 am

Thanks for the info Andy!

I'll let you know how it goes.

Post Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:55 am

Same engine as fitted to the e21 c1 2.3 They need revs by all accounts to get them going, bit flat low down. 325i is a better engine but obviously not as quirky as one of these are

Post Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:03 pm

Simon13 wrote:Same engine as fitted to the e21 c1 2.3 They need revs by all accounts to get them going, bit flat low down. 325i is a better engine but obviously not as quirky as one of these are

There is a difference between the E21 and E30 engine and that is the E21 uses Bosch K jetronic fuel injection and the E30 uses Bosch LE jetronic.

Post Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:30 pm

huge difference, how did i forget

Post Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:32 pm

Simon13 wrote:huge difference, how did i forget

Foooking brickie !

Post Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:30 pm

pacerpete wrote:
Simon13 wrote:huge difference, how did i forget

Foooking brickie !

The difference is like Flemish bond to English bond....

Post Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:01 pm

bss325i wrote:
Simon13 wrote:Same engine as fitted to the e21 c1 2.3 They need revs by all accounts to get them going, bit flat low down. 325i is a better engine but obviously not as quirky as one of these are
There is a difference between the E21 and E30 engine and that is the E21 uses Bosch K jetronic fuel injection and the E30 uses Bosch LE jetronic.

Also the E30 motor uses a modified 731 head not a 200, different slugs etc.
There was a standard spec for C1's that included electric windows. The white one I had years ago had them, but they were dealer fit and a bit of a lash up.

Post Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:04 pm

A lot of debate for something that will be weighed in ?!....

Post Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:15 pm

Andyboy wrote:
bss325i wrote:
Simon13 wrote:Same engine as fitted to the e21 c1 2.3 They need revs by all accounts to get them going, bit flat low down. 325i is a better engine but obviously not as quirky as one of these are
There is a difference between the E21 and E30 engine and that is the E21 uses Bosch K jetronic fuel injection and the E30 uses Bosch LE jetronic.
Also the E30 motor uses a modified 731 head not a 200, different slugs etc.

And the inlet manifold is different.

So all in all, quite a few differences!

Post Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:59 pm

Yup.

They're not as good as a stock 325i, but they're an interesting turd and worth saving. I think my old white one will be the only one left in a few years - certainly the only one in proper condition. It should be on the road for 2014, a mere 11 years after I sold it.

There's talk of building an authentic 2.3 for it to replace the Griffin 2.7 it has.

Alpine white 1 with beige leathers and gold Alpina pinstripes FTW.