back in the game.. 316 1.8 weber conversion

[pacerpete]

Don't listen to the doom mongers, I've had twin webers on 3 cars, never had any reliability problems on any of them. Twin factory downdraughts on a 205xs, never had to touch them in 38k miles of use and twin 40 dcoes on a pinto engined westfield (sub 20 mpg thirst, but thats what happens when you squeeze as much as you can out of one of these lumps) and twin 40's also on a van engined 924 with a home brew manifold, economy wasn't much worse than my other standard one and performance seemed better. This one did need a tune before every MOT, but thats probably more to do with them still being jetted for the Lotus they came off.

The issue is not that the car is a bodged up cantankerous undriveable thirsty sack of sh1t that does not start on a cold morning. I hope not anyway

The issue is that the OP has , by his own admission, ZERO mechanical skillz. Do you still think this car is suitable for him ?

[318isPMK]

Aye there's plenty of mechanics around!

[pacerpete]

Aye there's plenty of mechanics around!

Most mechanics do not know what a carburettor is , what hope will they have trying to figure out what to do with two of them from a 70s Alfa/Fiat/Wartburg that have been retrofitted to a car that never had them ?

[Rtaylor2208]

Paul as mentioned above, give these guys a bell. There work is excellent:

http://www.seditascars.co.uk/Weber_Carb ... tland.html

[stew72]

The issue is not that the car is a bodged up cantankerous undriveable thirsty sack of sh1t that does not start on a cold morning. I hope not anyway

The issue is that the OP has , by his own admission, ZERO mechanical skillz. Do you still think this car is suitable for him ?

To be honest the carb set up in question isn't overly complicated, so i guess it depends more on how hands on the OP wants to get rather than if they are capable.

[steve_k]

If in any doubt then why not have a look on the webcon site?
i'm sure there'll be a set up guide somewhere on there?

just a thought.

[Rich320I]

I think what pete is alluding to is, that Webbers and similar setups take some fettling once in a while and a little bit of basic mechanical knowledge(iv had a few different setups normally on pinto engines though).

So Unless you want to be constantly shelling out for a mechanics time to do the work it would be wise to at least get a basic knowledge of carbs.

[Speedtouch]

There's a guide to tuning twin DCOEs here:

http://sd2cx1.webring.org/l/rd?ring=the ... tune%2Ehtm

(see 'Adjusting Twin DCOEs').

[pacerpete]

There's a guide to tuning twin DCOEs here:

http://sd2cx1.webring.org/l/rd?ring=the ... tune%2Ehtm

(see 'Adjusting Twin DCOEs').

The 'tuning' is the easy bit. The initial set up/ correct jetting/optimizing of ignition timing etc is the really time consuming bit that is very seldom done properly which is what gives these carbs a bad rep and often makes the car they are retrofitted to slower than stock.

The reality is, it is 2012 and carburettors suck, literally

[Speedtouch]

I am actually very pleased with the SU HIF 44 on my Minor Traveller - reliable, easy starting, good economy and throttle response, reasonable power.

I have a Weber 34ADF on a Fiat twin cam Minor (the original twin-choke carb for that engine), and it's been pretty tricky to set up right, so goodness only knows what twin DCOEs are like...

[318isPMK]

Welcome back to the e30 fold Paul. That car looked to be a bit of a bargain. I would say find a good mechanic familiar with carb setups. I can recommend a garage down my way that specialise in rally cars and cars of the older variety.

Cheers Mate I'll run it past Boyd and take it from there. Its good to know there are places to go that come recommended

[Curr946]

http://www.hypertechscotland.co.uk/ try this mob there used to tuning old school fords and know the Weber set ups very well. there based in Bonnybridge.
they set up my mates brothers MK2 escort and done a cracking job. also sign up to the rear wheel drive forum .. http://rwdclub.hyperboards.com/ they do regular rolling road days at hypertech

[polsta]

This will end badly , but on a positive note, at least it isn't 3 bags

LOL you cruel man

[318isPMK]

Can I just say I sold it for 3.5k

[polsta]

Who to ? Don't quite believe that if I'm honest but fair play if true

[318isPMK]

Well without falling out about it I couldn't give two shirts if u believe me car went for 3.200 to a guy from lanark and the wheels went to euan from Renfrew. I've always been candid on here

[Nick45]

Can I just say I sold it for 3.5k

Feck... was gonna offer you a px deal on the carbs with a bullet proof single weber set up.

Nice work dude.

[Nobby_N]

Can I just say I sold it for 3.5k

Feck... was gonna offer you a px deal on the carbs with a bullet proof single weber set up.

Nice work dude.

He means his last fucked one!

[Nick45]

In that case, up for a deal amigo?

[polsta]

Well without falling out about it I couldn't give two shirts if u believe me car went for 3.200 to a guy from lanark and the wheels went to euan from Renfrew. I've always been candid on here

fair play, well you did pay 3k for it and spent about 5k on it to make it drive

[johnl320]

Welcome back. you don't do it the easy way though!

[ross_jsy]

Well without falling out about it I couldn't give two shirts if u believe me car went for 3.200 to a guy from lanark and the wheels went to euan from Renfrew. I've always been candid on here

fair play, well you did pay 3k for it and spent about 5k on it to make it drive

Isn't your sport some fertaned up turd?

[magpie]

when are you taking over the watch ACSPMK ?

i'd keep the wheels on the car they look good with the kit and it's all Genuine schnitzer and rare as f00k

[polsta]

Well without falling out about it I couldn't give two shirts if u believe me car went for 3.200 to a guy from lanark and the wheels went to euan from Renfrew. I've always been candid on here

fair play, well you did pay 3k for it and spent about 5k on it to make it drive

Isn't your sport some fertaned up turd?

yeah shes a full on rot box clinging on for life with more fertan in it than my pants

[318isPMK]

I'm not even sure how to respond, he's made it up here I'm going for a night out and will see it tomorrow if it's half as good as he's made it out to be I''ll have a cheap turd with a recent respray

[polsta]

could be a bargain mate if its solid and a decent paint job and you can get it running right, you cant really go wrong

[318isPMK]

It's all I'm hoping for I'm due a bit of luck!

[Curr946]

is it just me or has certain folk on here never got a good word to say about other folks cars.. oh yea its not there's and its not a genuine sport.....

get the twin carb's set up right you wont regret it.. Ive been in a few cars with this set up including a 2002 and they sound awesome and the throttle response is great..

[318isPMK]

It's all I'm hoping for I'm due a bit of luck!

[magpie]

what's happened then ?

[318isPMK]

wORLDS WORST HANGOVER!!!! WENT TO GET IT BUT I WAS STILL KINDA FOOKED SO DIDNT DO MUCH CHECKING.

eVERYTHING I DID LOOK AT WAS SOLID. BAT TRAY SCUTTLES REAR ARCHES SUNROOF. IT WAS REALLY DIFFICULT TO GET IT INTO REVERSE BUT AT THE PRICE I PAID I THOUGHT MECHANICALS ARE OF SECONDARY CONCERN.

in my opinion it defo needs power steering!

[snakebrain]

IT WAS REALLY DIFFICULT TO GET IT INTO REVERSE BUT AT THE PRICE I PAID I THOUGHT MECHANICALS ARE OF SECONDARY CONCERN.

This should be interesting..

[318isPMK]

A ken! but i could just have been the state I was in lol

[318isPMK]

went out to start it up took 8-10 attempts and when it did start it sounded like a dying animal. needs to get the belts checked and it handed to boyd for a tinker and to seditas cars for the webber set up.

updates to follow

[Speedtouch]

From my experience with Webers on a Fiat twin-cam, check for an aftermarket fuel filter in the fuel line, as these can restrict the fuel flow leading to severe flat spots - the Webers have built in fuel filters so external ones aren't really needed.

Also, it may be worth opening up the carbs and using carb cleaner to clear out all the jet passages, as they tend to become gunged up on older carbs.

Best of luck with it...