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Post Wed Oct 31, 2012 6:46 pm

Hi all its been a while my sports been sat rotting in the garage for about 2years now. lately ive been saving up for a new car until i saw, for the first time in a long time, a spanking e30 pull out of the local supermarket so ive now decided the money ive saved is going to restore my pride and joy. Now down to business i may have slightly cooked my engine so ive been thinking of putting another engine in(same 2.5 straight 6). The question is other than the engine what will i need from a doner car?
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Post Wed Oct 31, 2012 6:48 pm

What car is it going in ?

4 pot or 6 pot
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Post Wed Oct 31, 2012 6:51 pm

Sorry abit vague with the model. Ive got a 325i sport and im wanting to replace the engine thats in it with the same 2.5 straight 6
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Post Wed Oct 31, 2012 6:56 pm

You wouldn't need anything extra from the Doner car, perhaps the ecu and AFM will have different part numbers.

I would be swapping everything off the doner car thats better than whats on your sport
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Post Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:01 pm

What if i get from an e36/e46?
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Post Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:05 pm

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Post Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:10 pm

Are the engines not the same?
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Post Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:17 pm

Nooo, You wouldnt find a rattly m20 heap in an e36 or e46

You can get them in e28's and e21's

E30's were the last car to come with an m20 and were the best of the bunch tbh

e21's were only in 323i guise or a 320 carb

e28's had the 2.0 version and thats the lot, the 525i had a 2.5 M30 150 bhp boat anchor

The m20 has been around since 1977 iirc ?????
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Post Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:20 pm

spanky_doo wrote:Are the engines not the same?
there is a slight difference ...

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Post Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:21 pm

Yea, more plastic to look upon. :mad:
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Post Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:23 pm

Rav335uk wrote:Yea, more plastic to look upon. :mad:
c0ck :ban:


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Post Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:25 pm

Rav335uk wrote:Yea, more plastic to look upon. :mad:
Least plastic doesn't weigh 40 tonne
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Post Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:26 pm

magpie wrote:
Rav335uk wrote:Yea, more plastic to look upon. :mad:
c0ck :ban:


:snigger:
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Post Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:41 pm

Alex wrote:e28's had the 2.0 version and thats the lot, the 525i had a 2.5 M30 150 bhp boat anchor
E28 525e is an M20B27, i.e. it's a 2.7 version of the M20.
The 2693 cc M20B27 was designed for efficiency (thus the e for the Greek letter eta in 325e) and low-rev torque. Compared with the M20B25, the stroke is increased from 75 mm (3.0 in) to 81 mm (3.2 in).

Power output is 121 hp at 4,250 rpm for M20B27 engines produced up until 1987 and 127 hp at 4,800 rpm for the 325es model produced in 1988. Peak torque is 170 lb·ft at 3,250 rpm for M20B27 engines. In 1987, the fuel injection was upgraded from Motronic 1.0 to Motronic 1.1/1.3
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Post Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:42 pm

Early E34's had M20's too IIRC
How do you pronounce 'either'? I say 'either', but some say 'either'. Either is correct.
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Post Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:06 pm

Duke137 wrote:Early E34's had M20's too IIRC
indeed they do ,i was in a breakers yard when i spotted an e34 with 525i on the boot and thought oh yes on my approach there's money here then clocked the m20 sat in the bay ...fcuk it ! :(
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Post Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:11 pm

snakebrain wrote:
Alex wrote:e28's had the 2.0 version and thats the lot, the 525i had a 2.5 M30 150 bhp boat anchor
E28 525e is an M20B27, i.e. it's a 2.7 version of the M20.
The 2693 cc M20B27 was designed for efficiency (thus the e for the Greek letter eta in 325e) and low-rev torque. Compared with the M20B25, the stroke is increased from 75 mm (3.0 in) to 81 mm (3.2 in).

Power output is 121 hp at 4,250 rpm for M20B27 engines produced up until 1987 and 127 hp at 4,800 rpm for the 325es model produced in 1988. Peak torque is 170 lb·ft at 3,250 rpm for M20B27 engines. In 1987, the fuel injection was upgraded from Motronic 1.0 to Motronic 1.1/1.3
Forgot about that, in standard form i wouldnt want to change an m20b25 for a standard 525e engine
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Post Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:19 pm

Alex wrote:Forgot about that, in standard form i wouldnt want to change an m20b25 for a standard 525e engine
Apparently you can make them quite feisty with a 325i cylinder head and a bit of tweaking. Search on mye28 for 'e to i conversion' if you're interested in going down that road.