Difference in door windows

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Post Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:03 am

Hi guys. i understand that there is a difference in the door windows of pre facelift and facelift cars. in my case i have a coupe. i have replaced the window however the two sliders that the window sits in are out of alignment. i was wondering if it was the fault of the window, or i just need to adjust/calibrate it?

all help will be much appreciated guys :) cheers
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Post Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:42 pm

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Post Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:22 pm

Yes mate, their are Two different types of mechanism that hold the glass, i think the system with the two brackets can be adjusted.

Its a long time since i changed my door glass so i hope ive been of help :cool:
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Post Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:45 pm

Hav U tried weldin it m.8? :)
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Post Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:47 pm

I think there are differences between pre and post facelift cars as well as manual and electric variants too
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Post Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:29 am

Well done Danthe. thanks for that "bangin" tip.

I've looked at the mech but i just cant see where to adjust it :/
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Post Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:53 pm

I cant believe how limited the information on the internet is regarding e30 door windows. seems everything is for cab's
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Post Tue Sep 04, 2012 2:20 pm

facelift and pre faclift are different and can not be swapped unless you change the mch as well, the shape of the glass at the bottom is different
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Post Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:07 pm

Shittt, ok mate thats all i need to know. cheers
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Post Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:14 pm

It's not just the shape of the glass that's different, but the colour is as well. Pre facelift stuff usually has brown glass, whereas the facelift stuff is usually tinted green.
The mechanism change over happened a month or so after the facelift cars were introduced - early facelifted cars have the early mechanism, with the earlier shaped glass, but usually tinted green rather than brown.
Only a sample of one, but I once fitted the later type mechanism and glass to a door that was originally fitted with the earlier mechanism and glass, with no problems that I can recall.
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Post Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:02 pm

Cheers mate. so change the mech to match the glass is probably the easiest thing to do. mines green tint
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Post Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:04 pm

I may have a mech if you send me a picture
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Post Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:53 pm

come get the mech if you want it mate although i don't know what you'll do about the power/manual conundrum.
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Post Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:00 pm

I have facelift motors and pre-facelift glass in my car, you need to drill one hole in the door to fit the facelift motors, to fit the pre-facelift glass you have to bond facelift runners to them
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Post Wed Sep 05, 2012 6:26 am

yung-gun wrote:I cant believe how limited the information on the internet is regarding e30 door windows. seems everything is for cab's
I'll try to get this addressed in the Wiki asap. The internet needs more time devoted to the various types of door glass of a particular Eighties saloon :D
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Post Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:00 am

Grrrmachine wrote:
yung-gun wrote:I cant believe how limited the information on the internet is regarding e30 door windows. seems everything is for cab's
I'll try to get this addressed in the Wiki asap. The internet needs more time devoted to the various types of door glass of a particular Eighties saloon :D
Cheers mate. It's absolutely bang on for everything else :)
i think i might make a adapting plate to bolt onto the right hand runner to drop the level of it by a couple of inches. think the only problem I'll face would be the window not winding down all the way but i can live with that for now
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Post Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:03 pm

Good job i read this as ive just changed my doors and te mechs are diffrent an glass has etching on , was just gonna change glass . Ho hum top stuffs!