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Post Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:08 am

Right...had a few power steering issues,but that is least of my worries!....smashed my sump to bits on a kerb....so...

I need to replace my sump but there were two cables attached in there somewhere...(assuming oil pump)but they have ripped off from somwhere..still attached to a plug that ripped off...can i make a safe reconnection within the sump area?...its an m50 2.5 engine? Thanks..

Il try get a pic up later of the cables...
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Post Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:37 am

Sounds like total carnage mate. Pics would be a big advantage TBH
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Post Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:13 am

It was my own fault aswell..i was giving it the bolox coming out of a petrol station ..slid it out,let off the gas to straighten up and it slung shot the other way into a very large curb....My gear selector has gone walkies aswell...

Let this be a lessen to you kids,no matter how much you think you know your car things can always catch you out!!
So dont drive like a coont like me!!
Il get a pic up later ...
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Post Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:25 am

bet there was no styling that out either mate,

gutted hope you get it sorted soon :)
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Post Thu Aug 30, 2012 3:58 pm

Thanks rich..yeah hopefully everything will be done by next week....if theres no damage to the engine!(i only ran it for about a minute after i lost the oil...i didnt realise it was still running!!)

Im trying to get pics up of the wiring problem i have....
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Post Thu Aug 30, 2012 4:34 pm

macas wrote:It was my own fault aswell..i was giving it the bolox coming out of a petrol station ..slid it out,let off the gas to straighten up and it slung shot the other way into a very large curb....My gear selector has gone walkies aswell...

Let this be a lessen to you kids,no matter how much you think you know your car things can always catch you out!!
So dont drive like a coont like me!!
Il get a pic up later ...
'in the eyes of those who think thay know best'....if only you of had a welded diff fitted that would never of happend!!
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Post Thu Aug 30, 2012 4:43 pm

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Post Thu Aug 30, 2012 4:46 pm

Right.....thats the pics above of the damage....the cables i need to reconnect are on the bottom right hand side of the pic,how do i reconnect to the new sump??
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Post Thu Aug 30, 2012 4:47 pm

navi wrote:
macas wrote:It was my own fault aswell..i was giving it the bolox coming out of a petrol station ..slid it out,let off the gas to straighten up and it slung shot the other way into a very large curb....My gear selector has gone walkies aswell...

Let this be a lessen to you kids,no matter how much you think you know your car things can always catch you out!!
So dont drive like a coont like me!!
Il get a pic up later ...
'in the eyes of those who think thay know best'....if only you of had a welded diff fitted that would never of happend!!
I have got an lsd fitted...
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Post Thu Aug 30, 2012 5:53 pm

Actually theres 3wires that has severed...also do i have to replace my broken gear selector from underneath the car or can i do it from inside the car?
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Post Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:00 pm

macas wrote:Actually theres 3wires that has severed...also do i have to replace my broken gear selector from underneath the car or can i do it from inside the car?
that looks like the oil level sender,you will need a fresh one only 2 nuts and a connector. now thats finished,as is the sump,the selector most proberly broken the alloy bracket easy done with these.ive done a couple of sumps black ice!in the past,easy to change without droping the x member or lifting the engine it can be done,ive got the tee shirt!
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Post Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:26 pm

thanks mate...

But the complete connector has ripped off...
http://1.2.3.9/bmi/i1244.photobucket.co ... 3312CD.jpg
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Post Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:28 pm

Gear selector is done from underneath the car, and you need to remove the exhaust and exhaust heatshield to get to it. It'll be interesting to see how you've damaged it considering the shrapnel would have to get past all that... unless it was you yanking on it!

As others have said, you're looking at the oil level sensor cables which should have their own plug further up the loom (or at least they do on M20 engines).
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Post Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:39 pm

thanks grrr,just found it in the wiki and it sounds like its goin to be a barsteward!!

I hit the kerb straight on,so im presuming when the engine has hit the kerb it has pushed the engine back and broke the selector?

I am hoping that part of the loom that sits within the sump can be replaced!
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Post Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:08 pm

macas wrote:thanks grrr,just found it in the wiki and it sounds like its goin to be a barsteward!!

I hit the kerb straight on,so im presuming when the engine has hit the kerb it has pushed the engine back and broke the selector?

I am hoping that part of the loom that sits within the sump can be replaced!
thats what happen with the gear selector yes,that why bmws are crap for banger raceing!
seen a few brake this way.
as ive said you can change the sump without to much problems,its tight but can be done without droping x member/lifting engine.the sensor is a very minor part you may have to get a small piece of loom of a scrap car and re solder it,depends were its damaged(picture wont load?)
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Post Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:16 pm

Thanks nav...so you been banger racing in one then?? :mad:

this might be better?

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Post Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:33 pm

scjimbo wrote:
haha!

my kerb was much bigger tho so my car stopped dead...wev got the samedriving skills tho :D
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Post Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:40 pm

macas wrote:
scjimbo wrote:
haha!

my kerb was much bigger tho so my car stopped dead...wev got the samedriving skills tho :D
Oh sh#t thats always horrible after the bang you realize you are stopped dead. When similar happened to me the engine stopped dead too with a lovely cloud of steam.
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Post Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:03 pm

dont worry your not the first to do this,it is a crap feeling now but just think it could have been much worse than just looseing a sump&few bits of broken brackets,there is twisted shell&bent suspension parts you could add to the list,lucky its only a sump..p.s glade you got an lsd fitted,if it had been a welded diff then tuff crap&serves you write would have sprung to mind!
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Post Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:06 pm

My level sender isn't even conected so I wouldn't bother fannying about mate.

Good bit of c0ck action there :)

I don't envy you having to replace that sump though
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Post Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:15 pm

Hi lee...yes alot of cock action....plus a little bit of leaking shit...i crapped myself when it happened!!

So the sumps a pain to replace??will a 2.ltr sump fit??

Thanks navi..yes itcould have been disatrous lookIng back,thankfully my wheels are ok..it sounded as if the wheels front valance and sump all had it..but thankfully it was just the sump!
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Post Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:17 pm

I think the 2ltr sump will fit no probs so long as it is from an E34.

Replacing it will either involve lifting the engine well clear of the cross member/ taking the engine out, or suspending the engine in place and removing the subframe from underneath. Good times :-x
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Post Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:53 pm

E30BeemerLad wrote:I think the 2ltr sump will fit no probs so long as it is from an E34.

Replacing it will either involve lifting the engine well clear of the cross member/ taking the engine out, or suspending the engine in place and removing the subframe from underneath. Good times :-x
Correct 2.0 or 2.5 M50 engined E34's and E38 728i sumps all work

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Post Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:12 pm

Good job on the sump! 8O Were there any bystanders watching? :o:
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Post Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:49 pm

Speedtouch wrote:Good job on the sump! 8O Were there any bystanders watching? :o:
There was alittle old black lady and she said " why you drive like dat and break a lovely car!!"

So not too much embarresment.....

Anyway,fook it,im putting in my m52 now ,just gona nick some bits now,ie manifold etc....ready for the pod!...(hopefully)
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Post Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:54 pm

not to bad on the embaresment front then mate :)

unlike, when i managed to drive my old Xr2 in to one of the gate pillars of Hagley girls school just come leaving time :cry:

live and learn eh bud, looks like its leading to a uprated engine though :cool:
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Post Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:59 pm

Rich320I wrote:not to bad on the embaresment front then mate :)

unlike, when i managed to drive my old Xr2 in to one of the gate pillars of Hagley girls school just come leaving time :cry:

live and learn eh bud, looks like its leading to a uprated engine though :cool:
Hahaha!!!that did make me chuckle!!

Iv the m52 sitting there for 2 years...!just needed a good kck up the arse like this to change it...hopefully it will be abit nippier!!
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Post Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:12 pm

navi wrote: thats what happen with the gear selector yes,that why bmws are crap for banger raceing!
Depends how you build them :wink:
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