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Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:43 am

im sure some of you have seen this car on ebay

i really like it...looks very nice...i wonder if its anyones on here or if any of you know the car.

I wish i had the cash but sadly ..i dont ...lol

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-E30-S50-T ... 230wt_1396
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Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:45 am

if only eh , browsed at it a couple of times now
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Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:48 am

nice car nice :)
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Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:54 am

my question is ....the E30's ive had with m20 2.5l engines in at 170bhp can be a handful in the wet.

How do you drive a car like this with 600bhp in the wet...i mean ..im not a bad driver but i think i might struggle to cope with it tbh.
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Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:56 am

I do remember when it was featured in performance bmw and did see it in the flesh at gaydon a couple of years ago.
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Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:02 am

walrus1968 wrote:my question is ....the E30's ive had with m20 2.5l engines in at 170bhp can be a handful in the wet.

How do you drive a car like this with 600bhp in the wet...i mean ..im not a bad driver but i think i might struggle to cope with it tbh.
nothing's handful if you drive sensibly
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Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:28 am

Kos wrote:
walrus1968 wrote:my question is ....the E30's ive had with m20 2.5l engines in at 170bhp can be a handful in the wet.

How do you drive a car like this with 600bhp in the wet...i mean ..im not a bad driver but i think i might struggle to cope with it tbh.
nothing's handful if you drive sensibly
its not about sensibility...600bhp in a rwd car is going to be a challenge in the wet in any mode or style of driving imho
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Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:44 am

walrus1968 wrote:
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walrus1968 wrote:my question is ....the E30's ive had with m20 2.5l engines in at 170bhp can be a handful in the wet.

How do you drive a car like this with 600bhp in the wet...i mean ..im not a bad driver but i think i might struggle to cope with it tbh.
nothing's handful if you drive sensibly
its not about sensibility...600bhp in a rwd car is going to be a challenge in the wet in any mode or style of driving imho
why would it be a problem/challenge if you are aware of the power, the power delivery etc if you know the car and its limits you'll be fine

it is about beings sensible. controlling your right foot is the challenge and driving in a manor that is appropriate to the conditions

even if you just stuck a 600bhp engine in an e30 with no upgrades to brakes/suspension/diff ( even though its a stupid thing to do ) you can still drive it normally with out problems in all conditions if you are sensible.
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Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:41 am

i love it when they say it's a 318 on the logbook so your insurance will be cheap :mad:
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Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:06 am

Anything to sell a car.... Absolutely lovely tho. I'd give driving it around in the wet a go!!!!
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Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:12 am

To many people, the whole point of having an 'alleged' 600 bhp, is nothing to do with using it , it is all about telling eveyone "look at me ,I have 600 BHP" :(
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Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:36 am

Im a fan of big power cars, but something like this is not my bag with its white wheels, black bonnet and silicone hoses visible through the bumper. Not really a car to be seen in if your over the age of 21.

A monaro can be purchased for less money and with its ls engine it can give comparable bhp for not much outlay, and at the same time be reliable.
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Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:05 pm

walrus1968 wrote:
Kos wrote:
walrus1968 wrote:my question is ....the E30's ive had with m20 2.5l engines in at 170bhp can be a handful in the wet.

How do you drive a car like this with 600bhp in the wet...i mean ..im not a bad driver but i think i might struggle to cope with it tbh.
nothing's handful if you drive sensibly
its not about sensibility...600bhp in a rwd car is going to be a challenge in the wet in any mode or style of driving imho
The accelerator isn't an ON/OFF switch...it offers progression.
Also, just turn the boost down?
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Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:56 pm

like i say about bikes , its only as powerfull as you allow it ! if your throttle happy in a car like this in the wet its bound to end bad eventually , all depends on driver skillzzzzzzz
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Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:37 pm

If you think a 325i is tricky in the wet you need to have a word with yourself and stop driving like a twat.

An accelerator pedal isn't an on/ off switch, a 600bp car is only goin to be making 600bhp at full throttle at a certain point in the rev range.

I can imagine it could be quite a handful of you wanted it to be :cool:
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pukar wrote:i love it when they say it's a 318 on the logbook so your insurance will be cheap :mad:
I know , What a tool
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Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:26 pm

Not my cup of tea but that would be a weapon! Too much power for me for the traction available, I think I'd find it frustrating having to be so delicate with the throttle. Nothing wrong with hi-po engines, and as already mentioned, it's only as dangerous as the person behind the wheel. It would certainly be fun though winkeye
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Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:34 am

Bit ott for me. Black,white and red in all the wrong places. Its the 318 V5 that worries me for the lad.
Try that arguement with Flux and he may get a shock. Has he ever heard of " disclosure of all modifications". If he has, and he has done it and the insurer still lets him thru on a 318 then he seriously needs to get a second opinion before he hits something or god forbid...someone!
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Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:51 am

Still having 318 on the V5 log book is not a crime or bad thing in anyway.

Its if someone is Implying that you can declare it as a 318 to an insurance company is where it becomes immoral.

Even if if did notify the dvla that you had changed the engine it would still say 318i just the cc would change to whatever engine size you state in this case 2996 cc or whatever the s50 is.
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Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:58 am

I've also known people who have done engine conversions and declared it to their insurance company but not the dvla.

I know technically this is wrong and they should always be informed of any changes, but on an e30 it's not going to make any difference to the amount of tax they pay, the classification of the vehicle or the model name so you can see why they wouldn't bother.
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Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:21 pm

new tyres please :D
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Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:39 pm

magpie wrote:new tyres please :D
Exactly.

3-350bhp is about the usable limit for the E30 chassis imo. Anything more and it just becomes a tyre shredder.
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Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:42 pm

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magpie wrote:new tyres please :D
3-350bhp is about the usable limit for the E30 chassis imo. Anything more and it just becomes a tyre shredder.
+1

And e30 with 250bhp is a pretty quick car.
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Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:04 pm

a 325i set up well with some choice tires is nicely predictable. Mine was a dream down wet country roads, covered in cow turd, frost, snow, whatever, I just let the car do the work and kept any input down to a minimum. Set the car up well before the corner and always have a contingency. If it gets out of shape, respond with some careful but forceful input, and avoid hitting the brakes until it's straghtened up!! It did help driving one to work cross country every day (I had the option of dual carriageway, but that was proper boring) 50 mins in the morning after a strong coffee and then in the evening, after a days slog for 2 years through all 4 seasons gets the skillz up. It took about 3 months of owning one to really get to grips with it, there's no question it takes familiarisation & you have to push it to find out where the limits are before trying anything daft - it also helped having super sh1t suspension and 14" steels with none descript tires in the winter, I think that was what increased my respect for the power. If a 325i is a handful, try flying a helicopter - now that requires concentration.

350 is well enough, 250 would be pretty much untouchable for 99% of the other cars on the road, 170 is about right for a 1250kg e30 really

the 135 or so in my iS will propel me past most of the muppets on the road, but 16's with decent tires are a must to keep the speed through the corners.
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Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:18 pm

Yeah its a tyre shredder, yeah you cant use the power, yeah its a bit asbo, yeah its a handful etc etc etc but i would genuinely give a testicle for this car, love it.

(ps i've had kids so testicles are now surplus, anyone know where i can sell one?)
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Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:40 pm

tomislav wrote: i would genuinely give a testicle for this car, love it.

(ps i've had kids so testicles are now surplus, anyone know where i can sell one?)
the Chinese ?

they eat all kinds of wonderful things .
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Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:48 pm

Anyone on here chinese that can vouch for that?
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