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Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:41 pm

If he tries to drill/extract/tap this bolt out, I'm more than certain that his next post afterwards will be along the lines of "how do I remove a broken extractor/tap from the hole"!
There is only one sane way of removing this bolt, and that is to weld a nut onto the protruding bit, with the heat turned fairly well up. The heat and thermal shock will unseize the bolt, and it will wind out.
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Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:29 pm

Brianmoooore wrote:If he tries to drill/extract/tap this bolt out, I'm more than certain that his next post afterwards will be along the lines of "how do I remove a broken extractor/tap from the hole"!
hahahaha so true :twisted:
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Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:33 pm

I drilled and tapped a broken subframe bolt out, don't see what the fuss is about tbh, any1 with the slightest bit of mechanical know how surely knows how too drill straight and use a tap?
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Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:40 pm

No E30 i know of has a captive sub frame bolt with a thread holding it in? :mad:
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Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:46 pm

Demlotcrew wrote:No E30 i know of has a captive sub frame bolt with a thread holding it in? :mad:
+1..

I was going to say the same! damn you.. fast typing git..
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Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:47 pm

I think we need to hold a race, i will bet £50 i could get the bolt out first with no damage. :D

Just need to find two more turds with snapped bolts.
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Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:49 pm

Demlotcrew wrote:I think we need to hold a race, i will bet £50 i could get the bolt out first with no damage. :D

Just need to find two more turds with snapped bolts.
or just wait till he does the other side.. winkeye

I'd have that out of there in minutes.. you haven't seen seized bolts like a MK2 granada.. I swear they deliberately cold-weld everything in at the factory..
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Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:53 pm

well i should have this sorted tomorrow just got off the phone to a toll hire company got a mig welder coming tomorrow £30 for a whole week :)
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Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:22 pm

Good for you - best of luck! :)
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Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:32 pm

BATTS91 wrote:well i should have this sorted tomorrow just got off the phone to a toll hire company got a mig welder coming tomorrow £30 for a whole week :)

You can do your diff while your at it ! :)
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Thu Feb 02, 2012 4:40 pm

now now pacer you maybe joking but i did not think this but now im rather tempted to weld it after all it is gonna get thrown sideways at santa pod next month :p
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Thu Feb 02, 2012 4:58 pm

pacerpete wrote:
BATTS91 wrote:well i should have this sorted tomorrow just got off the phone to a toll hire company got a mig welder coming tomorrow £30 for a whole week :)

You can do your diff while your at it ! :)

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Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:59 pm

will be like the end of an era once this bolts out, what will everyone talk about?
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Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:28 pm

bodger wrote:will be like the end of an era once this bolts out, what will everyone talk about?
stance? :mad:
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Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:29 pm

I'm sure there will be a detailed 'thread' analysis afterwards...
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Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:31 pm

Tom_Maverick wrote:
bodger wrote:will be like the end of an era once this bolts out, what will everyone talk about?
stance? :mad:
pacerpete wrote:
BATTS91 wrote:well i should have this sorted tomorrow just got off the phone to a toll hire company got a mig welder coming tomorrow £30 for a whole week :)

You can do your diff while your at it ! :)
Diffin :chuckle:
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Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:36 pm

you just know its going to be a complete and utter fuckup innit :D
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Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:56 am

I never said the subframe bolts had captive nuts... Drilling a bolt is drilling a bolt being a captive nut or what ever, same $h1t different smell.
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Fri Feb 03, 2012 9:43 am

VW-will wrote:I never said the subframe bolts had captive nuts... Drilling a bolt is drilling a bolt being a captive nut or what ever, same $h1t different smell.
So you use an example where the bolt is twice as big, does not have a thread that can be damaged while drilling and tapping and could have easily been punched out instead? Next you'll be telling us you retapped the thread!

I don't know what's worse, your stupidity for assuming the sub frame bolt needs to be drilled out, or saying that it's easy since youve never actually done it.
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Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:00 am

It's a dub thing, man ! :)
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Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:03 am

Will I Am innit bruv, 4" dish, red cubes and on route 66 with a tapped sub frame bolt. :cry:
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Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:06 am

pacerpete wrote:It's a dub thing, man ! :)
less of that.. I've spent a lot of time fiddling with dubs and it hasn't turned me into a retard.. (I worked at a dub performance specialist and I was even featured in PVW many years ago)

don't blame the marque.. blame the divvo driving it.. :D
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Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:12 am

Tom_Maverick wrote:
pacerpete wrote:It's a dub thing, man ! :)
less of that.. I've spent a lot of time fiddling with dubs and it hasn't turned me into a retard.. (I worked at a dub performance specialist and I was even featured in PVW many years ago)

don't blame the marque.. blame the divvo driving it.. :D

At least you have seen the light and now have a proper, albeit councilled , turd :)
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Tom_Maverick wrote:hasn't turned me into a retard..:D
We only have your word on that.
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Demlotcrew wrote:
Tom_Maverick wrote:hasn't turned me into a retard..:D
We only have your word on that.
hey at least I can spell and use some sort of grammar.. A skill that would appear to be lacking here on the Zone...

and as for my council turd, you obviously haven't seen it in it's winter rightness.. 8)
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Tom_Maverick wrote:hey at least I can spell and use some sort of grammar.. A skill that would appear to be lacking here on the Zone...
Thats a very good point! The language skillz of the zone are pretty shocking!
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Tom_Maverick wrote:hey at least I can spell and use some sort of grammar.. A skill that would appear to be lacking here on the Zone...
Thats a very good point! The language skillz of the zone are pretty shocking!
I'm amazed that some people on here actually managed to fill in the registration form without the help of a carer or guardian..
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Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:07 pm

i pronounce this job bodged !
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Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:10 pm

You welded the lollipop on?

Classay turd you have there sir! What happened to welding a bolt to the end? At least the welds look tidy!
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Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:12 pm

ffs, what a fuckup, I knew it :D :D :D

So you snapped the bolt clean off 8O

And now you've tacked it on, no penetration between the 2 parts whatsoever, accident waiting to happen!
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Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:12 pm

I bet that would never pass the hammer test.

Looks like you welded a seam on the chassis rail and totally missed off the lolly pop

The CAB looks interesting too!

If I see you on the roads I will call the police.

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ross_jsy wrote:You welded the lollipop on?

Classay turd you have there sir! What happened to welding a bolt to the end? At least the welds look tidy!
tidy weld? specsavers mate..the weld is penetrating the chassis and nowt else, and round the side is a series of tacks 8O
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BATTS91 wrote:i pronounce this job bodged !
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rented a welder as it goes a siegen 130 mini mig as a few of us were talking about earlier good welder :)
Its a mess, you are a retard..Are you related to Tay the crossdresser?!
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Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:15 pm

Demlotcrew wrote:I bet that would never pass the hammer test.

Looks like you welded a seam on the chassis rail and totally missed off the lolly pop

The CAB looks interesting too!

If I see you on the roads I will call the police.

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nooo no police, drive into it and put the poor thing out of its misery
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*Awaits the next thread*

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