m50 maf 'whoops wrong section '

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Post Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:24 pm

righ when i bought my m50 i got given 2 mafs a plastic and a metal one ive seen plenty of pics of ones with plastic mafs but it doesnt fit in the plug and when i plug the metal one in idle sounds lil lumpy but revs fine and odo doesnt hunt up and down jus stays as a normal idle would on the clocks ???/ confuzzled a lil

editing this just realised in wrong section dont no how or if i can move it
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Post Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:35 pm

by the wAY the m50 engine is in my e30 any help would be apreciated thankyou :)
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Post Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:34 pm

Pics would help a lot
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Post Fri Dec 23, 2011 5:00 pm

this is the maf ive been using
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is this a non vanos m50 air flow meter ? it has 6 pins by the way
the plastic one i was also give has 4 pins but doesnt fit in plug ?
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Post Sat Dec 24, 2011 5:20 pm

Looks the same as my non-vanos MAF. Not sure on the numbers off the top of my head. Are the lambdas OK as far as you know? Might be worth taking it for a decent drive and seeing it it calms down.
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Post Sat Dec 24, 2011 7:12 pm

Thats defo a non-vanos MAF, they always have 6 pins, if the other MAF has 4 pins it will be for a vanos engine
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Post Sun Dec 25, 2011 6:46 pm

ahh that maybe what my confusion was all about went down local breakers but hasnt got anything so ill be putting a wanted add up soon as my paypal is sorted , and blue30 i havent any lambdas fitted i cut them out when i modified the manis , my friends used to run sweet without them ,
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Post Sun Dec 25, 2011 10:58 pm

Your engine is running crap without a lambda, and will eventually die.
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Post Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:23 pm

nah runs sweet as mate ;) as far as im aware lol lil rich due to maf not plugged in
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Post Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:59 pm

BATTS91 wrote:nah runs sweet as mate ;) as far as im aware lol lil rich due to maf not plugged in

No it's in limp mode. It will end up being scrap if left as it is.

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Post Wed Dec 28, 2011 12:21 am

One of my mates has a m50 in his merc c180, no lambda and it's on 220k + miles and still going strong....
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Post Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:14 am

Why not just run it with lambdas?! What are you trying to gain?
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Post Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:22 am

You dont gain anything, just lose power and MPG
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Post Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:50 am

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Post Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:57 pm

meh itll be fine its not staying n/a for long anyways so diffrent mani and emerald will be used but the real reason is that i couldnt be botherd to buy neww lambdas and as vw-will said our pals in his merc runds fine without em and same with mine ill let you no if id does let go but dnt see it happening
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Post Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:22 am

ok so ive been listening to what you guys have been saying in sense of lambda sensor now from my research e36 325 1993 has 1 lambda just before the cat , also they share the same part number throught the engine sizes on the e36 so i may just fit 1on the single pipe just after y piece in my system using one of these

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/270833184757? ... 1423.l2649

what i could do is just drill the hole and weld this on question is what is the correct thread size on them ?
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Post Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:09 am

Most are M18 but im sure some early lambdas are a larger thread, so best to get your lambda first and measure the thread before ordering the boss
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Post Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:00 am

Or you could just buy a M18 nut from your local fasteners supplier at about 50p.