E3/E12/E21 Project car wanted...

Post Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:25 pm

Not sure if this is the right place (mods please let me know and move it if need be, this is not intentional), but like the title says, I'm looking for a new project car. I've done a few E30s, and still have a G reg 325i Touring to keep me happy, but I fancy something a bit different.

So does anybody know of any E3/12/21 cars available, tucked away? I'm an optimist, I know......

Post Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:39 am

Anybody...? Even if it's a car that's not being advertised that might be available?

Post Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:33 pm

..quite a few on the bay at the moment:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-E21-316-1 ... 191wt_1133
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Very-Rare-197 ... 500wt_1150
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-E3-3-0S-L ... _716wt_899
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1982-BMW-316- ... 500wt_1150
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-323i-E21- ... 500wt_1150
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1973-BMW-e12- ... 082wt_1133
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1983-BMW-316- ... 500wt_1150
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1983-BMW-316- ... 500wt_1150

Post Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:57 pm

rh306 wrote:..quite a few on the bay at the moment:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-E21-316-1 ... 191wt_1133
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Very-Rare-197 ... 500wt_1150
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-E3-3-0S-L ... _716wt_899
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1982-BMW-316- ... 500wt_1150
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-323i-E21- ... 500wt_1150
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1973-BMW-e12- ... 082wt_1133
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1983-BMW-316- ... 500wt_1150
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1983-BMW-316- ... 500wt_1150

Good point - some interesting stuff there. Having said that, what's you plans for your Reseda E12? Just saw your thread now - it looks lovely!

Post Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:06 pm

thanks, just waiting for the history file to come through at the moment

, After that refurb the steels, fit these:

sort out a slightly bent back bumper and kidneys, get it serviced and then just the occasional drive and some regular buffing

Post Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:57 pm

Wow, it'll look great with those fitted once the wheels are done. It's just the sort of thing I'm after, but I doubt that I'll be as lucky as you!

Post Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:20 am

Got outbid in the last 45 seconds on this one

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Very-Rare-197 ... 500wt_1150

Post Mon Dec 12, 2011 4:56 pm

anothere21323i wrote:Got outbid in the last 45 seconds on this one

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Very-Rare-197 ... 500wt_1150

this is nice

Post Mon Dec 12, 2011 5:10 pm

Tell me about it! Like I said, somebody beat me to it by 20 quid and 15 seconds!

Post Wed Dec 21, 2011 6:33 am

anothere21323i wrote:Got outbid in the last 45 seconds on this one

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Very-Rare-197 ... 500wt_1150

Well the good news is that the winning bidder turned out to be a timewasting tw*t so this is now mine!!! Delighted! Anybody know which section I should post my restoration thread in?

Post Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:24 am

awesome, looks like a good base for a resto

i hope you're handy at making up panels though, i can't imagine pattern parts are available anymore!
i think this section will probably be ok for a resto thread

Post Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:32 am

anothere21323i wrote:
anothere21323i wrote:Got outbid in the last 45 seconds on this one

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Very-Rare-197 ... 500wt_1150
Well the good news is that the winning bidder turned out to be a timewasting tw*t so this is now mine!!! Delighted! Anybody know which section I should post my restoration thread in?

This section.. Looking forward to it!

Post Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:33 pm

Thanks guys, I'll be collecting the car in January so keep your eyes peeled! I'll post some more pics up once I've got it home and the strip down has started.

Alan - not sure if you've come across Walloth and Nesch in Germany, but they do pretty much everything. I have a feeling that they'll be getting a bit of my hard-earmed over the next few months!!!!

Post Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:17 pm

anothere21323i wrote:Alan - not sure if you've come across Walloth and Nesch in Germany, but they do pretty much everything.

just looked them up, nice to see parts are still available for the older stuff.
just need someone to start producing cheap E24 wings now so i can finally buy one!

Post Fri Dec 23, 2011 11:00 am

Bear in the mind the parts that they show pictures of on the website are just a small selection of what they have - you can download the full parts manual and price list for free if you want. Their warehouse is apparently ENORMOUS! I know when I had my E21 323i a few years ago they had a few NOS E21 shells knocking around....

I think they carry a lot of parts for the E24 too, so you never know, they probably have lots of wings. Sadly I don't think 'E24 wings' and 'cheap' go together.......

Post Fri Dec 23, 2011 12:52 pm

I think they still have a few new E21 shells, I remember seeing them on the site too a while back.

Post Fri Dec 23, 2011 3:01 pm

Wonder how much they want? Actually I don't want to know because I would probably do the obvious....

Post Fri Dec 23, 2011 5:31 pm

?I have thought of shooting an Email over to them, but I need to get to see my shell properly first.
No doubt when I get to it, I will be ordering new panels.

Post Fri Dec 23, 2011 5:38 pm

They are really good guys, so why not give it a go. I'll be driving my Touring over to Techno Classica this year, and they always have a stand there. I was thinking I could pick some parts up from there and cut down on the postage etc.

Did you know they do monthly discounts?

Post Fri Dec 23, 2011 5:45 pm

ALways a different discount or sale with them every month I log on, but depends on what car really.

Post Fri Dec 23, 2011 5:54 pm

True - I think they do 'themes' every month, I noticed that it's coolant hoses at the mo. Never seen them advertise E30 parts though.

Post Sat Dec 24, 2011 12:50 am

Not another E21323i then! Looks like a fantastic project ahead Tony, I look forward to seeing what you do with this one.

Post Sat Dec 24, 2011 5:18 am

Ha ha no, not another E21! Although I do miss mine (not as much as I miss the 320IS, but that's another story!), but this will be more exciting.

Let's just say I don't think it'll be a 2.5 auto for much longer.....

Post Fri Feb 03, 2012 9:38 am

Well the E3 and an UTTER turd of an E12 520 arrived yesterday. The E12 will be donating it's pedal box and brake servo bracket so that I can bin the hateful E3 twin servo set up, then will get fragged and weighed in. The E3 will be getting an M30 3.5 transplant - I just need to find a suitable donor now......

Post Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:21 pm

Drop something proper in the E3!!! S38?! S50? S54.. True hero lumps

Post Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:39 pm

M88 or S38 more period.

Post Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:08 pm

True, that would be epic! Not sure it would be all that easy to find one though....

Post Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:36 pm

anothere21323i wrote:Well the E3 and an UTTER turd of an E12 520 arrived yesterday. The E12 will be donating it's pedal box and brake servo bracket so that I can bin the hateful E3 twin servo set up, then will get fragged and weighed in. The E3 will be getting an M30 3.5 transplant - I just need to find a suitable donor now......

Well I collected this yesterday

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/330678670991? ... _602wt_922

Can anybody guess what's going to happen next? 3.5 M30, LSD and correct 5 speed box? Yes please! Plus there are plenty of morsels to sell once it's been fragged to offset the purchase....

Post Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:44 pm

anothere21323i wrote:Well the E3 and an UTTER turd of an E12 520 arrived yesterday. The E12 will be donating it's pedal box and brake servo bracket so that I can bin the hateful E3 twin servo set up, then will get fragged and weighed in. The E3 will be getting an M30 3.5 transplant - I just need to find a suitable donor now......

Well I collected this yesterday

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/330678670991? ... _602wt_922

Can anybody guess what's going to happen next? 3.5 M30, LSD and correct 5 speed box? Yes please! Plus there are plenty of morsels to sell once it's been fragged to offset the purchase....

Post Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:46 pm

anothere21323i wrote:
anothere21323i wrote:Well the E3 and an UTTER turd of an E12 520 arrived yesterday. The E12 will be donating it's pedal box and brake servo bracket so that I can bin the hateful E3 twin servo set up, then will get fragged and weighed in. The E3 will be getting an M30 3.5 transplant - I just need to find a suitable donor now......
Well I collected this yesterday

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/330678670991? ... _602wt_922

Can anybody guess what's going to happen next? 3.5 M30, LSD and correct 5 speed box? Yes please! Plus there are plenty of morsels to sell once it's been fragged to offset the purchase....

That's an E28 based E24 so not very suitable to use as a donor for an E3.

What you really need is an E12 535i or E12 based 635CSi as it will have more suitable mechanicals to use on an E3 like the side loader diff and the cable speedo drive gear box.

Post Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:52 pm

I'm pretty sure that all pre 85 635s had the cable speedo drive box? I did check that before I bought this. Either way, there are plent you juicy bits that can be flogged on - including the sports leather and really clean front wings....

Post Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:59 pm

The car certainly has some valuable morsels.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but only the E12 based E24's have the cable drive box.

Post Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:01 pm

That's interesting, as a very reliable source told me otherwise. But all is not lost I suppose.

Post Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:11 pm

May '82 is the change over if i remember right.

Post Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:30 pm

Just been thinking about this. Where's the speedo drive on the later cars?