What have i done!!!!!

[Guest]

Guys, saw this on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 4587892517

I just bid and won, I already own a f reg 325i cab in black.......i best be able to flamin sell mine quick

What you guys reckon??

Talk about running before you can walk!!

[Simon13]

car has history.....................

ask palerider he owned it

[Dan318-is]

was going to say something but thought i better not

[Guest]

palerider who he? can anyone giv his details?

[craigieeb]

well i'll give you 100 pounds for you'r cab, im sure it'll help towards the car you have just won

[Guest]

well wont be paying owt if it turns out to be that bad!! anyone know the full details of car? any help at this point haha

nothing was stated in Ebay add so i will feel at liberty to back out

[Guest]

Well.............just bein checking out some posts about it and think there is little chance i'll go through with it..........3K nearly for a car thats been stuffed and stripped.

I really should have done homework but saw it at last minute

I just got hpi on it and it confirms:

REPORT SUMMARY

INTEREST REGISTERED AGAINST A PREVIOUS PLATE

VRM RECORDED AS REPAIRED INSURANCE TOTAL LOSS BY AN INSURANCE COMPANY

it goes onto say that it has since been inspected and passed inspection.........What you guys think it is worth??

[Hyperion]

i saw go and give the car a look first, we are all speculating on the car (no has seen it in the flesh, driven it etc) Its not gonna be an issue to go and look drive etc. And remember it is a rare motorsport cab!

[alan325i]

Why bid on car if you dont want it??????

You clearly see the reg number and could have gone and took a look at car before placing a bid, and done all chacks on car before placing a bid.

Expect really shiity feedback off guy selling it as u would have wasted his time and money.

I havent got anything to do with seller in anyway or form before anyone asks.

Plus, when u place abid u have entered a contract with the buyer, read ebay rules. plus did you not read the bit that he put that states.
PLEASE NOTE, YOUR ARE BIDDING TO BUY, NOT TO COME AND HAVE A LOOK, IF YOU NEED TO ARRANGE VIEWINGS CONTACT ME BY EMAIL OR MOBILE NUMBER. CHEERS

Sorry if you think im having ago, but put yourself in his position, you seems a waster

[pacerpete]

Unfortunately the mods deleted a thread where i brought this cars chequered past to everyones attention and locked another related thread.
I do agree you should do your homework before you bid.
As mentioned above.the car was for sale recently by palerider for around Ԛ£2000 and its issues were clearly stated. Try contacting him to get the full rundown on the chariot.

[nav786]

it is your fault for bidding, but if the advert is misleading or wrong in anyway then i think your in the right not to buy.

this is why i never buy a car off ebay, altho you can pick up some bargains.

[E30BeemerLad]

I think there's nowt wrong with buying a motor off ebay, if you are buying a wreck for spares or repairs then you bid blind, if you are after something as proper transport and it isn't going for pennies then you must view or at least contact the seller and discuss more about the vehicle before bidding.

[Jhonno]

i personally think its a bit cheeky the seller mentioned nothing of the cars checkered past when he knows full well about it.. probably in order to make a bit of profit on the car

i also think its a shame the threads where the cars history was pointed out were locked and deleted as they were not slagging off they were merely pointing something out that was being 'hidden' by the seller

[JazzMan]

Well.............just bein checking out some posts about it and think there is little chance i'll go through with it..........3K nearly for a car thats been stuffed and stripped.

I really should have done homework but saw it at last minute

I just got hpi on it and it confirms:

REPORT SUMMARY

INTEREST REGISTERED AGAINST A PREVIOUS PLATE

VRM RECORDED AS REPAIRED INSURANCE TOTAL LOSS BY AN INSURANCE COMPANY

it goes onto say that it has since been inspected and passed inspection.........What you guys think it is worth??

If its not mentioned in the auction then thats a contract breaker because the seller was not being truthful (although he may not even know it). On the other hand you could always negotiate a better price given its history.

[320Touring]

i personally think its a bit cheeky the seller mentioned nothing of the cars checkered past when he knows full well about it.. probably in order to make a bit of profit on the car

i also think its a shame the threads where the cars history was pointed out were locked and deleted as they were not slagging off they were merely pointing something out that was being 'hidden' by the seller

the threads in question were started by fastcarz and he requested that they should be deleted. Furthermore he started several threads on this one subject.

I left one in the section, but locked it as I felt this situation had been addressed by the previous owner on here in a number of threads.

Sorry you bought it DaZMaN, but I'd agree with folks that, if you didnt want it, why did you bid? and why didnt you go and look at the car?

If however, the advert is misleading then you may have grounds for not paying up

Good luck and I hope it gets sorted!

Neil P

[SCOTT325SE]

You bid to buy. you bid without doing your homework and you get everything you deserve. Im not being an arse, im just stating the basics.
Pay for it or get shit feedback. your choice.

[Jhonno]

You bid to buy. you bid without doing your homework and you get everything you deserve. Im not being an arse, im just stating the basics.
Pay for it or get shit feedback. your choice.

i would agree with this - end of the day its not cheap.. i would not fork out that sort of Ԛ£Ã”šÃ‚£Ãƒ”šÃ‚£ without 1st doing a few checks.

but i also think the seller should have mentioned what he knew about the car

[Fushion_Julz]

hate to point it out, but the winning bidder (Voyager3142) has already hidden his/her feedback by being a "private" bidder...

Negative feedback will make not one iota of difference.

Any item must be "as described"...it did not say anywhere in the ad "accident free" or "HPI clear" so I would say he is in the clear...

It is the buyers' task to make sure he/she is happy with the item prior to purchasing

[A325icab]

i think you will find the law states that if you know of any issues or prev history on a vehicle [ which the seller did ] when selling you are legally bound to declare it otherwise it can be concidered as a fraudelent sale, i have read the advert and can not find anywhere where the seller declares this.

[Fushion_Julz]

really? which law is that, then?

Any links/references, please?

[A325icab]

ask anybody its been in this country for years. ring a local solicitor or police station and find out for yourself, i know this as it is my job.

[jonb]

that fastcarz bloke was very silly. he was trying to sell the car on here a few days after he bought it off palerider. christ i wouldnt have even done that! i would have waited a couple of weeks at least.

[E30BeemerLad]

i think you will find the law states that if you know of any issues or prev history on a vehicle [ which the seller did ] when selling you are legally bound to declare it otherwise it can be concidered as a fraudelent sale, i have read the advert and can not find anywhere where the seller declares this.

this only applies if a statement is made as to the quality of the vehicle being allegedly in tip-tip order - which would make it a false statement. but in reality there is no obligation on the seller in this area, the obligation arises if the seller is directly questioned on "has the car ever had a prang mate?" and he says no (knowing full well it has) then there is a deliberate misrepresentation made. It's still civil law and nothing the police would ever be bothered about, unless the gear was knock-off

[Fushion_Julz]

I was going to look it up...

Partly cos I want to see if it applies ONLY to motor vehicles, or if it is more general...

Personally, I would apply "Caveat Emptor" (buyer beware) to any transaction...

The advert isn't misleading, per se, it just doesn't state that the car has HPI history or has been repaired in the past...
Personally, I can't see the problem...If the car is legal, not stolen and with MoT, then it is up to the buyer to ASK if he/she wants to know any further history...Sure, if the seller lied, then that may be a point to raise, but no question: no reply...ergo no knowledge!

[iDreamBeemer]

This would be covered under the trade description act

the product must match the description so as not to falsely advertise, however this advert does not look to be too misleading...your only protection comes from asking specific questions, if the person is lying THEN you could object, if anyone wants to know more...http://www.dti.gov.uk/ccp/topics1/guide/tda1968.pdf

otherwise it is buyer beware from private deals....

[tim_s]

i think the guy's an a*shole for not mentioning that it had been written off etc when he knew this. sure it may not be illegal, but regardless its pretty low. my sympathies go out to you, I sure as hell wouldn't buy a car from someone like that.

[smithy318i]

just dont pay for it. your feedback is clearly already fooked anyway!

[Rich_W]

ask anybody its been in this country for years. ring a local solicitor or police station and find out for yourself, i know this as it is my job.

Then IMO you are rubbish at your job! You clearly dont understand INTERPRETATION of the law. The seller will claim he didnt know (whether he did or not) he hasnt stated any facts in the advert that are misleading.

As for the car. Tough titties. You bid, you won. Why bid otherwise. But tbh as your feedback is now private. You are a messer of the highest order it seems! And its people like you that are the reason eBay is a shit hole! You just bid first, ask questions 2nd. Then complain when it all goes wrong!

[tim_s]

come on guys! the guy omitted to mention something major about the car, and i'm sure if dazman knew this then he wouldn't have bid on it. ebay is shit not cos of people like dazman but due to people like the seller who isn't accurately describing his item. if the guy didn't want to be messed about he should have been honest about it.

[Guest]

Well just been over to pick car up, I will say i am happyish with it. But the advert that Adam (fastcarz464) put on Ebay was complete BULLSHIT! Says electric hood (working) ye only when your putting it back up. If its up and you wanna take it down then NO IT DONT WORK!! "Top of the range Kenwood mask" ERRRR bullshit standard alpine cd head unit which no functioning display...............For which i got 50 quid off price which is least he could of done. "full tool kit and first aid box" Where that then????

And for all you guys who say you bid you buy..............remember that next time you pay for somet and description turns out to be wrong!!

[JOSEMI]

I followed this thread and, if there are items which dont work as described then you could have easily refused it and he would not have had grounds to argue with that, unless you wanted that car then it was your chance to say no !

An incorrect description invalidates the contract between you two.

All the best mate !
Jose

[Fushion_Julz]

Well just been over to pick car up, I will say i am happyish with it. But the advert that Adam (fastcarz464) put on Ebay was complete BULLSHIT! Says electric hood (working) ye only when your putting it back up. If its up and you wanna take it down then NO IT DONT WORK!! "Top of the range Kenwood mask" ERRRR bullshit standard alpine cd head unit which no functioning display...............For which i got 50 quid off price which is least he could of done. "full tool kit and first aid box" Where that then????

And for all you guys who say you bid you buy..............remember that next time you pay for somet and description turns out to be wrong!!

So how much off did you get for the non-working hood? Or the missing tools and first aid kit?

If the seller described them as there and they weren't, then THAT is a misleading advert and grounds for either a decent discount on the agreed price (cos you agreed to that price WITH those items) or a withdrawl from the sale altogether.

The other stuff (HPI, history, etc) were not mentioned in the ad, yet you are saying that, because you were considering pulling out of the transaction having found out retrospectively about them, you are annoyed at people telling you to wise-up...
Yet on the things you could have legitamately withdrawn from the auction for, you seem to have let those whoosh by...

call me cynical, but....

[Moofles]

And for all you guys who say you bid you buy..............remember that next time you pay for somet and description turns out to be wrong!!

hang on...did you know the description was wrong when you bid on the car? If not, then I think people's comments are pretty valid...

BUT i think that the fact it was a write-off should have been mentioned, he's a bit tricky this guy.

[massive]

Interesting comments on here. Ok, this is exactly how the law works:

A325icab - Your comment is a joke, plus what the fcuk do the Police know about it??? As much as you it would seem.

If the person is in trade: You have rights under the Sale of Goods Act, which states that the goods should be of satisfactory quality, fit for the purpose and as described. These are your civil statutory rights which are determined on age of goods and price paid. The Trade Descriptions Act is CRIMINAL law enforced by trading standards - this deals with the sale of item where a trade description has been applied i.e clocked car. You as a buyer cannot use the Trade Descriptions Act.

If the person is a private seller the only come back you have is description, the seller does NOT have to disclose anything even if he knows about it (i.e. written off). The law of contract, should you find a condition of the contract is breached (description say), the contract is invalid. This would be a decission of a judge in a civil court if argued. Trade Descriptions Act DOES NOT apply to any private sale.

[dlatch33]

buyer beware indeed
although the fact the car was a insurance right off should have been clearly stated in the auction as it affects the value
i would personnaly never buy a car without viewing it especially not for that money.

But live and learn ehh