Locked out of car with keys inside. Help how to open, please

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Sat Oct 15, 2011 12:56 pm

Any one offer advice on how to open the car door with out a key.

I have both set of keys in the car and the battery was charging. Then the little one closed the door!!!

Any way got the bonnet open tried powering fuse 27 (hope it was the right one)no joy.

Any other ideas, please.

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Sat Oct 15, 2011 1:06 pm

take the plastic locking trim out of the rear screen rubber then remove the rear window and in ya go.

you can pop the rear screen back in easily but the locking strip may have to be done by a garage cheaply.
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Sat Oct 15, 2011 1:25 pm

magpie wrote:take the plastic locking trim out of the rear screen rubber then remove the rear window and in ya go.

you can pop the rear screen back in easily but the locking strip may have to be done by a garage cheaply.
Or the same with the windscreen...five minutes out,40 back is my record! :D
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Sat Oct 15, 2011 1:42 pm

You can use that blue or yellow strap/tape that is normally used to wrap newspapers or pallets of bricks. Fold it, then push through the drivers door seam where it meets the pillar. Then you can just about wrap it around the door lock pin and lift. You must fold it first though so you have a loop to wrap round the pin once its inside the car.
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Sat Oct 15, 2011 1:42 pm

just out of interest, when you put the screen back in, did you use any sealant (like bathroom sealant) to ensure no water leaks??

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Sat Oct 15, 2011 1:49 pm

jimboe39540i wrote:just out of interest, when you put the screen back in, did you use any sealant (like bathroom sealant) to ensure no water leaks??

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No,I have never needed it,but first remove the seal from the car frame and clean all three grooves.Check the car frame in the lower corners,I have found tape covering drain holes,trim the tape back clear of the drain holes.
Fit the seal to the car,then re-fit the 'screen,make sure that it is central to the seal,or the locking strip will refuse to enter the corners.

If you find corrosion in the corners of the frame,you will need to sort that out before re-fitting,or bodge with sealant....
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Sat Oct 15, 2011 2:00 pm

a spring loaded centre punch is also good for opening windows but a bit messy :D
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magpie wrote:a spring loaded centre punch is also good for opening windows but a bit messy :D
Automatic nail gun works as well,so I am told,no personal experience,of course... :D
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Sat Oct 15, 2011 2:02 pm

tha881 wrote:You can use that blue or yellow strap/tape that is normally used to wrap newspapers or pallets of bricks. Fold it, then push through the drivers door seam where it meets the pillar. Then you can just about wrap it around the door lock pin and lift. You must fold it first though so you have a loop to wrap round the pin once its inside the car.
The mushroom headed lock pins on E30s make this a very easy operation. Probably why later models aren't mushroom headed.
Don't attempt to remove the rear screen - you will rip off the demister connections.
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magpie wrote:a spring loaded centre punch is also good for opening windows but a bit messy :D
I used to have one of them.....
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magpie wrote:a spring loaded centre punch is also good for opening windows but a bit messy :D
I used to have one of them.....
ford digital radio cassettes were once a premium :D
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magpie wrote:
Topblag wrote:
magpie wrote:a spring loaded centre punch is also good for opening windows but a bit messy :D
I used to have one of them.....
ford digital radio cassettes were once a premium :D
So were Cossies winkeye
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Sat Oct 15, 2011 2:21 pm

Brianmoooore wrote:[

Don't attempt to remove the rear screen - you will rip off the demister connections.
after removing about 20 rear screens this way i've yet to break one demisting connector off.

oh look there's a handy piece of that blue or yellow strap/tape that is normally used to wrap newspapers or pallets of bricks
in my glove box,just need to remove the rear screen first to get it ,


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Sat Oct 15, 2011 3:00 pm

Thanks for the tips . How ever i have no idea how to remove a windscreen or put it back in.

Worse case senerio us the trusted hammer - i'll wait till monday for some more inspiration.

Also no more ideas on how to break the glass, i am sure i can work that out. winkeye

Is there any way to trigger the central locking?
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Sat Oct 15, 2011 3:04 pm

D1MYY wrote:Thanks for the tips . How ever i have no idea how to remove a windscreen or put it back in.

Worse case senerio us the trusted hammer - i'll wait till monday for some more inspiration.

Also no more ideas on how to break the glass, i am sure i can work that out. winkeye

Is there any way to trigger the central locking?
use the key .


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Sat Oct 15, 2011 4:09 pm

tha881 wrote:You can use that blue or yellow strap/tape that is normally used to wrap newspapers or pallets of bricks. Fold it, then push through the drivers door seam where it meets the pillar. Then you can just about wrap it around the door lock pin and lift. You must fold it first though so you have a loop to wrap round the pin once its inside the car.
Old skool, had to do this many times, back in the days when the battery went flat & the central locking only worked from the boot on my first e30.
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Sat Oct 15, 2011 4:11 pm

get a length of brake pipe and thread a bike gear cable thru it and solder the end of the brake cable to the brake pipe so theres a loop on the end.
bar the top of the door open so you can get the brake pipe down. get the loop around the lock knob pull on the cable to tighten the loop around it and pull on the brake pipe. sorted.
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Sat Oct 15, 2011 4:14 pm

windscreen is what i did last time, just be gentle! and at least if it does go wrong your insurance should cover it!
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Sat Oct 15, 2011 4:14 pm

D1MYY wrote:Thanks for the tips . How ever i have no idea how to remove a windscreen or put it back in.
Using a small screwdriver,lift out the metal cover over the locking strip,centre lower on the 'screen rubber.
Pull out the rubber locking strip.
Go all round the outside of the 'screen,lifting the rubber off the glass(it tends to stick over time,so break the seal)
This next bit is the difficult bit....from the inside,push the 'screen out of the rubber....you are going to have to peel the rubber back at a top corner and attempt to lift the 'screen out of the seal.Use only your fingers,do not attempt to lever the 'screen with a tool.I guess that a 'sucker' on the glass will be a great help,but it should be do-able by fingers only.

Going back is typical Haynes manual,but do take great care to get the 'screen central on the bottom of the seal,otherwise the locking strip will not fit around the corners.Use only soft soap to lubricate the locking strip and lever the locking strip into place with a small screwdriver from the glass side only,then any slips will not leave scars in your paintwork.
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Sat Oct 15, 2011 4:20 pm

You guys make it all so complicated.



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Sat Oct 15, 2011 4:31 pm

for some one who can't remove a rear window i doubt is able of tying a slip knot,

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