Worlds longest Resto, my C2 2.7 19/3/18 Vent guage action

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Post Fri Sep 09, 2011 9:09 pm

Doh! Was I the only one thinking she wanted some optional extras?

Poor Pete.
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Post Fri Sep 09, 2011 9:22 pm

pacerpete wrote:The bronzit turds previous rocked up today with the service book / paper work :)

Unfortunately that wasn't her main reason for dropping in, that would be to sort out the snagging list on the E36 318 shooting brake that I served her :(
Sounds like you have a stalker, good work :D
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Post Fri Sep 09, 2011 9:27 pm

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pacerpete wrote:The bronzit turds previous rocked up today with the service book / paper work :)

Unfortunately that wasn't her main reason for dropping in, that would be to sort out the snagging list on the E36 318 shooting brake that I served her :(
Sounds like you have a stalker, good work :D

She loved the choir boy gag ! :D
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Post Fri Sep 09, 2011 9:45 pm

bss325i wrote:No, im not as bad as Trev.
I'd frag the wife if i thought she was worth much!! :P
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Post Sun Sep 11, 2011 12:59 am

I liked the brown too it matched the the rust.
I've just releived my bronzit of the havana turd interior as i got fed up of looking for brown sport seats.
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Post Sun Sep 11, 2011 5:16 pm

P10mike wrote:I liked the brown too it matched the the rust.
I've just releived my bronzit of the havana turd interior as i got fed up of looking for brown sport seats.
you getting some pictures up Mike ?
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Post Mon Sep 12, 2011 7:59 pm

pacerpete wrote:The bronzit turds previous rocked up today with the service book / paper work :)

Unfortunately that wasn't her main reason for dropping in, that would be to sort out the snagging list on the E36 318 shooting brake that I served her :(
I'll fetch the easy-to-complete warranty claim forms.
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Post Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:08 pm

I hear simon does a good warranty! :)
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Post Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:13 pm

There's no smoke without fire!*



*excludes coolant hoses.
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Post Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:23 pm

my fine reputation preceeds me :o :clin:
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Post Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:48 am

I thought you'd resemble that comment! :D

A mate still has the mint brown cloth interior I sold him................from a 1989 Bronzit.
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Post Mon Sep 19, 2011 10:36 pm

With the other S50 now sold and strapped to a pallet bound for the US, thats freed up my engine stand ready for battle! The next major step on the road to recovery we hope for this car, the donk.



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Block ready to recieve all the bits and bobs


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The most important bit bar everything being clean
is a good engine assembly lube. This stuff is highly recommended by those in the know. it will never run off like other products so you could leave it for a few months come back and its still as good as when it went on.

The only draw back is it makes the oil go black, not the end of the world in my book and better than metal bits all touching on the first start up.



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Rod slug and pin



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Lube up



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Slide slot together and then you need to get these little snap rings in. 1 each side to hold the wrist pin in place.



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Repeat x6. I can't imagine rebuilding a V12. f**k that - get that out quick!



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Rings out the box, nice little instructions and also paying attention to TOP written on the 2 top rings, the lower ring is identical either way so can go either way.




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Rings on, now all the gaps on the rings are lined up. They want to be all 120 degrees apart from each other before installation.




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Lube a tube :o I don't know why i went this route by fitting the piston/rods first. I expect most people would fit the crank, it makes more sense and is probably easier. I only really thought that after i'd fitted them all!



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Piston ring compressor lent to me by Barry



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lube the slug



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No.1 in with the arrow on the piston pointing the front of the block



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No.3 on the way, not a nice job tapping these down. I was sweating a bit by number 6 knowing how easy a ring can snap.



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ImageMade it! then though crank in first might of been a brighter thought




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Heres the oil pump drive laid out in kind of its order it all fits. Easier to fit before the crank goes in so i thought.




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Lube, then gear wheel



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Then cap and clamp. The cap is NLA now, i wanted a shiney one ho well



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Shaft with the locking tab and screws.



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Caps and main end bolts all clean. The bolts are non stretch here and can be re used no problem



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Started putting the shells in and hit my first problem!



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On this shell the tabs are slightly too far apart, now i can be a beast but this isn't happening



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For comparison, one on the left is ok and how it should be, right one is the wrongun.

So off to the machine shop to get that one sorted me thinks



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Shells all in ready for..............



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Lube! lots of don't be shy then........




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The uber clean, dry, oil ways blown out air line styleee crank was





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lubed as it just can't hurt, no chances taken!




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And we're in. Now its time to connect the rods up and the shuffle to get them all on



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Shells in caps and lubed ready to go



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1 and 6 bolted up with 3 and 4 ready for their caps.



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All 6 bolted on, plus the main end caps. I've kept 2 off for the machine shop. I've not torqued anything down either and called it a night here. Well this is a couple of nights at it.




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And thats how it sits. It turns over by hand so thats a good sign i think!

We've been waiting years for this!
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Post Mon Sep 19, 2011 10:44 pm

Excellent work - Pity about those caps, there is always something which spoils the party, easy fix though.
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Post Mon Sep 19, 2011 10:49 pm

WOO WOO! Full steam ahead! :D

Try not to turn it over until all the bearing caps are torqued bert.
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Post Mon Sep 19, 2011 10:54 pm

You make it look so easy!! :cool:
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Post Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:52 pm

I've never used that lube stuff - I used EP140 gear oil instead.

When assembling the rest, try to avoid silicon sealer which is bloody horrid stuff. I've always used Castrol LM grease on gaskets. It carbonises as it heats up and gives a superb oil tight seal, and any excess will get washed off and absorbed by the engine oil. The head gasket goes on dry though!

Another tip - when the engine is built, leave the cambelt off and with the sump full of oil, spin the auxilliary shaft over with a socket (a drill will do it, but an air gun is ideal). That'll get the oil pump going and deliver oil to all the galleries ready for start up. Make sure you fill then oil pump with oil before you fit it, as dry pumps really don't want to know.

When it's firing up time, the engine needs to run at a steady 2000 rpm for 10 minutes to bed in the cam.

Looking good though. This could be running this time next week....?
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Post Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:29 pm

no chance for next week! i've got a nice holiday coming up, head is at the machine shop, i'm waiting on the camshaft. I know need to get up the maching shop and sort this main end shell out.

i've got some castrol LM grease good tip for the sump gasket!

Also need to re-MOT Bronzit if it runs out soon...............Pete you have the history let me know! Then strip her down and manualise it. Lots to do just time being tight. I can see the light though now
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Post Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:54 pm

awesome pics
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Post Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:57 pm

Simon13 wrote:
Then strip her down and manualise it. Lots to do just time being tight. I can see the light though now
Nooo - needs to be a C2 2.7 Sportomatic!

Mind you, it's not a big drama to 5 speed it once the donk'n'trans are out.
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Post Tue Sep 20, 2011 10:05 pm

Andyboy wrote:
Simon13 wrote:
Then strip her down and manualise it. Lots to do just time being tight. I can see the light though now
Nooo - needs to be a C2 2.7 Sportomatic!

Mind you, it's not a big drama to 5 speed it once the donk'n'trans are out.
Thats what I said. Auto will suit that torquey engine and will be nice to run in.
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Post Tue Sep 20, 2011 10:17 pm

Nice work Si.. Love a bit of engine porn :cool:
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Post Wed Sep 21, 2011 7:01 am

I reckon also run it in with the auto.....................
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Post Wed Sep 21, 2011 7:15 pm

its 5 speed people much better i can vary the loads on the engine better than an auto donk slurring away. PLUS i'm not getting into a restling match with spigot bearing removal. I can aslo test my gearbox too. I hope its not too growly in Neutral but i think i'm hoping a little there. The touring box has a real good growl on these days but thats had 2.7 power from new.

Well i dropped the offending shell off to the machine shop today. They agreed with me after some faffing and doubting at first, then said about bringing all the shells back and all the main end caps so they can play etc. I said forget it, i'm not stripping it back down.

They've not even started on the head so they have all the cards but i shall pester on the phone as i said i can't build/finish it off without their input. Trev hows my inlet rocker? f**k barrys M30 tat!
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Post Wed Sep 21, 2011 7:31 pm

M30 tat indeed. Thank the Lord you have a nice simple M20 and not the horrid shite that is the M30 head with four unique rocker shafts, springs, washers, C clips and the pure joy of used rocker shafts that love to seize into the head. Fuc&ing scrap.

I detest those things even more than E36 Coupe door handles.
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Post Wed Sep 21, 2011 7:39 pm

Barry likes M30 top end action :o
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Post Wed Sep 21, 2011 7:44 pm

Oh shit, the head's not off that thing is it?
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Post Wed Sep 21, 2011 7:52 pm

not yet, i'll be in trouble now!
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Post Wed Sep 21, 2011 7:59 pm

All lined up Si. I'm waiting for Barry to drop his pair off and I'll do the lot together mate! :wink:
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Post Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:33 pm

To be fair i can chuck any old sh!t on when its in the bronzit its the diamond engine bay that counts!
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Post Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:53 pm

OI! You C*tnts! I'm an anchor w@nker now so no dissing the M30!

The head will be coming off! :cry:
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Post Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:53 pm

Si, did you send a fiver off to DVLA to get copies of all the old logbooks in the end?
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Post Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:05 pm

Andy WLN did that for me before i bought the car i've got them all in the history!
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Post Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:10 pm

Very impressive Si, youve come a really long way from the golden days :cool:

Really cant wait for our trip to Blackpool for some victory photos :cool:

Ps whos on the camera, looks like its got a prime lens?

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Post Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:37 pm

Lubing the rings is not a good idea IMO, you want them to bed in which only happens with little lube, ive always used just cheapie mineral oil