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Sat Aug 27, 2011 12:50 pm

Just had the winner of my 325i touring leave me an answer phone message explaining that he really really wanted my car, but has not got any money.

Why bid on the car? Why wait 2 weeks with the MOT and Tax running down and me storing it before letting me know? Why up till 2 days ago ring to say he's definitely coming meaning i change my plans this bank holiday weekend to accommodate his collecting it?

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Sat Aug 27, 2011 1:00 pm

There's been a lot of these threads of late :) .

Problem is; due to ebay's policy of sellers no longer being able to leave negative feedback, there are no consequences to 'buying' an item and not paying for it.

This seems to leave the way open for idiots to go around blithely bidding without following up. It's a frustrating waste of time and money for the seller. All one can do is open an unpaid item case. Whoop-dee-do!
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Sat Aug 27, 2011 1:01 pm

to be honest thats what you ask for when listing any car on ebay, i woudlnt let any car auction finish, make it clear in the message to email if interested and listed elsewhere, anyone genuinly interested will contact you its as simple as that , and remove it with 12 hrs left to save this sort of thing happening

same way as id never bid on a car on ebay (unless a super bargain under £500 say) , as you win, go look at it, and if its not as described etc you want to walk away

its a wind up with cars on ebay- im currently looking for a land rover defender, every day looking on all fronts i can think off, messaging ,ringing, etc... so many inflated prices, cars get bid on to decent amounts, end, then to be re listed 2 days later saying timne waster blah blah, other sellers look at prices and completed prices to try to price theirs, see these over inflated completed ones...then put theirs up thinking thats what its worth, this coupled with so many 0-low rated sellers and bidders,and bidders with 100% bid history with that seller shill bidding...just leads to a totaly all over the place minefield market, its doing my head in
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Sat Aug 27, 2011 1:01 pm

there is a law firm who deal with idiots like him, ie recover all costs for you
but i can not remember the name, im sure you will find them if you google it
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Sat Aug 27, 2011 1:07 pm

polsta wrote:to be honest thats what you ask for when listing any car on ebay, i woudlnt let any car auction finish, make it clear in the message to email if interested and listed elsewhere, anyone genuinly interested will contact you its as simple as that , and remove it with 12 hrs left to save this sort of thing happening

same way as id never bid on a car on ebay (unless a super bargain under £500 say) , as you win, go look at it, and if its not as described etc you want to walk away

its a wind up with cars on ebay- im currently looking for a land rover defender, every day looking on all fronts i can think off, messaging ,ringing, etc... so many inflated prices, cars get bid on to decent amounts, end, then to be re listed 2 days later saying timne waster blah blah, other sellers look at prices and completed prices to try to price theirs, see these over inflated completed ones...then put theirs up thinking thats what its worth, this coupled with so many 0-low rated sellers and bidders,and bidders with 100% bid history with that seller shill bidding...just leads to a totaly all over the place minefield market, its doing my head in
The way you are looking is totally wrong - ALWAYS look at the seller first - and the QUALITY of his feedback -just ignore any adverts where the seller isn't goldplated
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Sat Aug 27, 2011 1:58 pm

What an absolute asshole, feel sorry for you. Did he have any plans to get money or, did he just express his want for the vehicle then hang up.

Start of this year i was bidding on an emaculate 5...28i touring. It was a 5 series touring anyway and it was immaculate. I was winning the bid at 500 pounds, then at the 2nd last second someone outbid me by 10 pounds. Enraged i didnt go on ebay for a couple of months, but when i did go back on i found an email from the seller offering to sell me the car as the winner hadnt actually replied and didnt answer his phone. I was pissed off i coulda had the car but also that ebay these days seems to be over run with time wasters, its not fair on people atal
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Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:15 pm

Ebay seems like a nightmare for buying cars.

The guy I bought my touring off had "sold" it 3 times on ebay to non-paying nobheads before I went to view it with cash in my pocket.

I don't really look for cars on ebay anymore as it just seems to be a dumping ground for overpriced scrap.

Autotrader is still the best all rounder for finding decent motors IMO.
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Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:24 pm

When selling things like cars on ebay you can make it so people with little or no feedback cant place a bid, i always do this when selling big items like cars helps aviod being messed around
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Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:43 pm

ebay has always been ok for my mates! i advertised my mates mg zr for £4500. 1 bid was placed and he won it for that amount. guy turned up with the cash, didnt want a test drive or anything and just drove off!!! he didnt even mail any questions just that hed be picking it up a week later! how the hell anyone can buy a car like that is unbelievable. same thing happened again when a lad at work sold his e36 328 cabrio for the same amount (£4500). the bloke won it, caught the train from london with his lad, got in the car and drove away no questions asked! took about 5 mins to complete the sale for BOTH cars CASH. crazy :mad:

if it was me i know id get a right knob head with NO CASH lol :)
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Sat Aug 27, 2011 7:02 pm

i have to deal with potless flea bay losers when ever i list items i ask for 5 min feedback bids but i still get joe fuc-kwitt with no feedback and just joined buying an item then asking for postage to fu-ckwitsville in abdabustan .

and i have to relist again!
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Sat Aug 27, 2011 7:11 pm

I'm dealing with this joe fu-ckwitt guy at the moment. A lot of his feedback says "fast payer", not in my case.

He bid on and won an E30 interior and I haven't heard anything from him since close of auction, 5 days ago.

I feel like posting him some of my interior.
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Sat Aug 27, 2011 7:31 pm

Ranchero wrote:I feel like posting him some of my interior.
Shit parcel FTW 8)
Cypriotgeeza wrote:I done both my mates in my old 318is
felt so proud,even tried it with a E30 325i and got put in my place.. :o:
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Ranchero wrote:I feel like posting him some of my interior.
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Sat Aug 27, 2011 8:05 pm

Never sell a car via auction on Ebay, classified ads only.
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Sat Aug 27, 2011 8:44 pm

Yes classifieds only.
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Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:04 pm

Anything for decent money that is being collected like a car, I ALWAYS demand a £100 deposit by paypal within 24hrs, and if I don't get it I ALWAYS offer it to the next bidder in the list.
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Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:28 pm

I sold 2 vehicles in Ebay auctions one for £8,100

And one for £3,600, and never had any trouble at all.

Both vehicles paid for and collected within days!!

So its not all bad folk, I'm aware some are, but not all!!!

Its bozo's that, like polsta end cars before the end, cos they can't be bothered to list the vehicle correctly with a fixed reserve, to protect its value, who ruin the whole buying process for genuine buyers!!

I got top money for both my vehicles cos I listed them properly, answered questions and allowed viewings, and followed Ebay regs properly!!

The money I got, couldn't have been achieved anywhere else!!
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Sat Aug 27, 2011 11:47 pm

TPS...the floor is yours mate
(he has a story or two about selling his car on ebay)
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Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:12 am

The guy I bought my touring off had "sold" it 3 times on ebay to non-paying nobheads before I went to view it with cash in my pocket.



That wasnt from inverness by any chance was it? Cos it sounds awful like the guy/car im talking about.
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Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:30 am

do you know you can set minimum requirements for people bidding? Like they need more than 5 feedbacks and need a credit card on file? This filters out a lot of idiots
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Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:36 am

The arsehole I'm dealing with has been trading since 2007 with a spotless feedback rating.
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1970John wrote:
Its bozo's that, like polsta end cars before the end, cos they can't be bothered to list the vehicle correctly with a fixed reserve, to protect its value, who ruin the whole buying process for genuine buyers!!
ive never sold a car on ebay, and with ebays listing fees, then the reserve fee, then the final value feel then any paypal fees...makes it all too many fees, maybe if ebay made fees a bit more reasonable at times, and also made it so sellers can post buyers/non payers etc negative feedback,and generaly make ebay such hard work these days, it would be different
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verde wrote:The guy I bought my touring off had "sold" it 3 times on ebay to non-paying nobheads before I went to view it with cash in my pocket.



That wasnt from inverness by any chance was it? Cos it sounds awful like the guy/car im talking about.
Nope. Was a genuine guy from Macclesfield in the North West - the car was listed in the FS section on here which is how I found it.
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Nope. Was a genuine guy from Macclesfield in the North West - the car was listed in the FS section on here which is how I found it.[/quote]

Ah ian curtis territory. Just wondered cos the exact same had happened to this guy with his touring. Its not fair on people.
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Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:41 pm

ive bought and sold maybe 7/8 cars on ebay, never had a problem
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e.g just sold a manual sunroof winder for £17.50 8O

the buyer has 1 feedback so we'll see.2nd chance offer is £16 :D
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Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:44 am

polsta wrote:to be honest thats what you ask for when listing any car on ebay, i woudlnt let any car auction finish, make it clear in the message to email if interested and listed elsewhere, anyone genuinly interested will contact you its as simple as that , and remove it with 12 hrs left to save this sort of thing happening
this ^^ is what exsactly happend with my e30, guy sore it on ebay contacted me the old fashion way buy phone sore it that night and we agreed on a price, deposite paid and picked it up a day later, was a lovely transaction!! so simple to pick up the phone and come view first save alot of hasel!!

all you have to do is put in the ad is that you will settle for a decent offer and put your phone number in the listing and your phone should ring off the hook with dreamers and people with serious offers!!
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polsta wrote:to be honest thats what you ask for when listing any car on ebay, i woudlnt let any car auction finish, make it clear in the message to email if interested and listed elsewhere, anyone genuinly interested will contact you its as simple as that , and remove it with 12 hrs left to save this sort of thing happening
this ^^ is what exsactly happend with my e30, guy sore it on ebay contacted me the old fashion way buy phone sore it that night and we agreed on a price, deposite paid and picked it up a day later, was a lovely transaction!! so simple to pick up the phone and come view first save alot of hasel!!

all you have to do is put in the ad is that you will settle for a decent offer and put your phone number in the listing and your phone should ring off the hook with dreamers and people with serious offers!!
Thats the classified Ad option, the best one. No bidding, no dickheads ending the auction for you, no feedback. All you need to do is decide what you reasonably want for your item and go from there. All this auction nonsence is for dreamners who think their item is an unknown Van Gogh waiting to be discovered.
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mk1nuts wrote:
polsta wrote:to be honest thats what you ask for when listing any car on ebay, i woudlnt let any car auction finish, make it clear in the message to email if interested and listed elsewhere, anyone genuinly interested will contact you its as simple as that , and remove it with 12 hrs left to save this sort of thing happening
this ^^ is what exsactly happend with my e30, guy sore it on ebay contacted me the old fashion way buy phone sore it that night and we agreed on a price, deposite paid and picked it up a day later, was a lovely transaction!! so simple to pick up the phone and come view first save alot of hasel!!

all you have to do is put in the ad is that you will settle for a decent offer and put your phone number in the listing and your phone should ring off the hook with dreamers and people with serious offers!!
Thats the classified Ad option, the best one. No bidding, no dickheads ending the auction for you, no feedback. All you need to do is decide what you reasonably want for your item and go from there. All this auction nonsence is for dreamners who think their item is an unknown Van Gogh waiting to be discovered.
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Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:06 pm

but ebay charge £15 for a classified add, still £8 for an auction

tell ya what.....im looking for a defender at the moment, last couple of weeks flat out looking looking asking,phoning, etc ,its a f**king nightmare with them on ebay.. they do hold value but absoloute turds mixed in with good ones, and so many dreamer sellers its unreal, thinking their haggered 1988 one is worth 2k more than it is

trouble is...so many get bid up to silly amounts, re listed saying time wasters blah blah, with a lot of inflated priced ones un sold...so along comes mr average with his,looks at these inflated and big up too high re listed ones etc,..and gets an over inflated value of his,not many want to end early/agree a price or put a price to you, thinking its worth 1k more than it is, etc, its an absoluite jungle and doing my head in
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Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:09 pm

@ Polsta - You willing to travel as far as Leicester for a defender? If so, let me know and i'll pm you some details of one someone I know that is selling one, not sure on price or info on it, but I know he is getting rid of it. Single cab one on a E plate is all I can say at the moment.
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Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:42 pm

is it a pick up style with no back you mean ?

im willing to travel for the right one... but obviously id have to be certain if travelling a distance of over "local pop to have a look" sort of way

my ideal...is a country spec 200tdi in green with the side windows rather than van panel and rear seats , roof lining, and nice enough to be inside, rather than an abused work horse type thats crap to be inside

im not in any rush, just looking about and learning the market and differences etc

but non tdi ones are about a grand less or more,although non tdi are not as good on the road and motorway etc, but its weighing up the £££ say 2k range, or 3-3.5k for a tdi


this one they want 1900 for, if only it was a tdi

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... TQ:GB:1123

and this one ends tomorrow not too far away, but for the money might be good..

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LAND-ROVER-DE ... 45fc9bc28d
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Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:06 pm

Well I just had a word with him and he said he has taken a desposit on it now anyway... It was the pick up style one.

I would love a defender but I really dont enjoy driving manuals and havent got the money to buy a newer auto one as they cost stupid money.

I like the second one you linked though, very cool. :cool:
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Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:14 pm

ok cheers mate, i spoke to them last week they looking for 2k cash for that one, but its not a tdi and matt painted black..although easy to re paint after scratches etc

1st ones sold ffs, been on ebay for 5 mins !! reasonably priced ones dont hang about, the 3-4k dreamers for 2-2.5k ones hang about and make for hard work
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