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Post Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:51 pm

Is it just me or does it not look that M5ish, doesn't somehow look special enough.
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Post Wed Jun 15, 2011 4:18 pm

Quad pipes, grilles on the front wings and tyres you could flatten a golf course with? Looks like an M5 to me :)
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Post Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:57 pm

28.5 MPG and 232 g/km! 8O How did they do that?

An E39 520 M52 does 237 g/km.
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Post Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:06 pm

Like it.

From the side profile it does look very flat fronted but it isnt offensive like some of the other turds to emerge from the BMW stable.
Rust is lighter than carbon fibre.
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Post Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:09 pm

Oh and its a V8 for crying out loud the bonnet should bulge outwards not inwards.

Just my 2p.
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Post Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:22 pm

Just does absolutely nothing for me
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Post Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:44 pm

Wow.. Just wow. Looks stunning, and what a technical marvel :cool:
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Post Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:28 pm

Errr, 501lbft from 1500rpm does it for me!

Talk about torquemeister!

I like the new F10 five and F01 7 series styling in the right colour/wheel combo.

As Dan said, its a technical marvel and i cant bloody wait to have a go! Also itching to get behind the wheel of the new 1M of which we have a demo in black.
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Post Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:25 pm

Barry I was at your employers few weeks back. (Saw your car outside. I was sure you worked elsewhere :? ) Not a single M car for sale that I could see.

Went into Coopers and there was 4 1sM and various M5 and M3 sitting about.
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Post Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:35 pm

I know you were there, did they say why you didn't get the job?

You must not have looked hard enough!

Saying that there hasn't been an M's in the show room for several weeks but there are always M3's and a few M5's about.

On the subject of M's we are about to become an official M dealer with only certain dealers in the country becoming so.
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Post Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:37 pm

I like, I will never own one though as I never will have enough cash.
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Post Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:02 pm

bss325i wrote:Errr, 501lbft from 1500rpm does it for me!

Talk about torquemeister!

I like the new F10 five and F01 7 series styling in the right colour/wheel combo.

As Dan said, its a technical marvel and i cant bloody wait to have a go! Also itching to get behind the wheel of the new 1M of which we have a demo in black.
I PDI'd a 1M a few weeks back... Carried out roadtest just because it was a 1M and wow.. It handles great and with that power.. In a straight line the DSC light was flashing away... A great little car!
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Post Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:28 pm

bss325i wrote:Errr, 501lbft from 1500rpm
Unless they got the units wrong (wouldn't be the only incorrect conversions on that page) then quick head maths makes that 680 - ish Nm. The old one was only 500 - ish Nm 8O
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Post Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:42 am

i like, remap anyone? surely 700bhp or more is poss!
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Post Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:56 am

I can't wait for the first one to be written off for Glenn to put it into an E30!
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Post Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:18 pm

Simon13 wrote:i like, remap anyone? surely 700bhp or more is poss!

The first thing that went through my head too mate.

I wouldnt have that colour but that is a sexy car imo 8)
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Post Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:06 pm

Simon wrote:I can't wait for the first one to be written off for Glenn to put it into an E30!
That would need a wheelie bar :)
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Post Thu Jun 16, 2011 4:00 pm

bss325i wrote: On the subject of M's we are about to become an official M dealer with only certain dealers in the country becoming so.
Why is your dealer becoming an official M dealer?
What does an official M dealer entail? Is it that dealer is only allowed to sell new Ms or new/used Ms?
Who else is becoming official M dealer?

Are there now BMWCCleaflets distributed with all new BMWs sold now thats what i heard?
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Post Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:14 pm

My local lot Barons of Farnborough are also an M dealer i saw today, no idea what it means
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Post Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:51 pm

Simon13 wrote:i like, remap anyone? surely 700bhp or more is poss!
In this months BMWCar mag there is a feature on a Mannhart racing E92 M3. It has the S63 engine from the X5M/X6M which is basically the same engine in the F10 M5.

They have extracted 732bhp and 723lbft!:eek:

In a 3 series!
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Post Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:59 pm

i've read it, thats last months, new issue out today!
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Post Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:06 pm

The whole 'M dealer' thing is a bit of a con. Each M dealership will have one sales guy who will be trained up to know all the stats etc, plus I'm guessing the mechs will go on training courses. The dealer I used to work for is an M dealer....the guy they trained up as their M specialist left a week later to go to Mercedes! :D

This new M5 has a bit of the old E39 about it and you can bet it'll be a much nicer thing than the E60.
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Post Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:15 pm

Is this the first time an M5 has had a smaller engine than the one before it?
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Post Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:49 am

who hear prefers the new engine in this M5 over the outgoing screaming NA V10?
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Post Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:41 pm

Just noticed that it may have a manual gearbox option! Awesome :)
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Post Fri Jun 17, 2011 3:14 pm

They have extracted 732bhp and 723lbft!

In a 3 series!
8O 8O 8O :eek:
try and imagine that, your internal organs would hit your spine for sure!!!! :mad: :mad:
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Post Fri Jun 17, 2011 5:47 pm

Simon wrote:I can't wait for the first one to be written off for Glenn to put it into an E30!
funnily enough, the last time i spoke to jason at fabs about your gearbox, we also spoke about the expected cos/availability of the f10 m5 engine !

i do like the look of the f10, i think its much better looking than the e60.

as said earlier, with turbocharging, the power/torque outputs will be monstrous once the tuners get into the software.
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Post Fri Jun 17, 2011 6:11 pm

yes but simply jumping the power of the engine involves ALOT OF other COSTS:

stronger chassis
stronger clutch
stronger brakes
stronger drivetrain
stronger cooling system

How do you ensure the harmony of all the components so from a technical view they can handle the required stresses/torques/heat energy generated etc?
How do you do this without access to FEA (Finite Element Anaylsis) etc which all the professional engineers at BMW M will have etc?

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you cannot just put it together like a jigsaw necesarily and hope for the best.....
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Post Fri Jun 17, 2011 6:53 pm

you can, you just repair and uprate stuff as it breaks. Nothing wrong with that
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Post Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:33 pm

Very, very :cool:
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Post Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:58 pm

Simon13 wrote:you can, you just repair and uprate stuff as it breaks. Nothing wrong with that
Lol you mean trial and error lol.
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Post Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:57 pm

eta wrote:I like, I will never own one though as I never will have enough cash.
Give it 10 to 15 years for when it reaches it's council stage and no doubt you will be able to pick up a dog for a few bags.

And pony, you are assuming that they have engineered it to take exactly the power it has now. They will be deliberately over-engineered.
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Post Sat Jun 18, 2011 1:53 am

I dont like it
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